#he also has pretty prominent saturn influence
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aphrothiti Ā· 2 months ago
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This song feels like the epitome of Saturn to me
Kurt Cobain was in his Saturn dasha when it came out
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arcadia345 Ā· 1 year ago
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The Natal Astrology chart of Jeon-Jungkook
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ā€¼ļøšŸ”žšŸ”žšŸ”ž not a real astrologer just my observations :) paid readings
Born in Busan, South Korea on Monday Sept. 1st 1997 at 3:23pm
ASC: Capricorn 6Ā°
the first thing to stand out on him appearance wise would be his hands and arms, shoulders, teeth, hair, legs and thighs, but especially his torso! With his dreamlike and eccentric presence they didnā€™t take him seriously Saturn influence but as time passed and he worked on his crafts and himself everyone seen him as the star he is. Capricorns are known for having to mature quicker than others because of responsibilities. As a cap rising with Uranus and Neptune in the first just like him I KNEW he was a Capricorn bc of how his nose has always been prominent throughout his life but now heā€™s grown up/ into his features šŸ„¹ and also how everyone always projecting (Neptune)onto him like???? Like when did he tell you this?? Definitely the dissociation king šŸ‘‘. Very easy to dream about him I feelšŸ˜­ he brings out our subconscious desires. His rebellious Uranus side popped out when he came out with his piercings and tats you could tell he was tired of being projected onto but also iconic because heā€™s kinda like the first A-list K-pop idol (bts in general tho)to go out of social norms appearance wise. In a way they kinda broke a generational curse šŸ„¹ I remembered how he said he got the scar on his cheek because he was fighting with his brother which correlates to his Aries Saturn (his chart ruler) in the 3rd(siblings). Style wise he gets bored quickly so heā€™d like to switch up his appearance often. Most of the time heā€™d go for comfortable but still fashionable clothing, like you may see him in a chill outfit but itā€™ll cost more than ur rentšŸ’€. He could like to switch it up with odd/bold/flirty colors & fits but mostly he loves his darker colors like grey and black.
2nd house: Aquarius 14Ā°
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Lemme tell yā€™all right nowā€¦. This man is WIERD at heartšŸ¤£šŸ¤£ like heā€™s genuinely quirky lol itā€™s not a front like fr heā€™s so down to earth itā€™s crazyšŸ„¹ also his whole chart points to being very spiritual? esp with that 8th house stellium like heā€™s very into expanding his mind in any way possible so his could be heavily gifted and in pretty sure he knows this by now. He definitely ask himself ā€œwhy me?ā€all the time like what did he do to end up so blessed/different?. He definitely wouldā€™ve had money regardless of fame as long as he stays true to himself and learns to give enough without being taken advantage of. He loves watching television/listening to music to pass the time. (Any other Neptune in 1st feel like they were raised by television??) Jupiter is all about indulging so in the 2nd house he loves all the simple pleasures, he LOVES FOOD like omg & nice clothes and smells everything that makes you feel good, he likes to collect things thatā€™ll make you go????šŸ¤ØšŸ˜ƒ also heā€™s DEFINITELY CHRONICALLY ONLINE AND STALKING US BUT HE CANT HELP IT heā€™s just really nosey lmaošŸ˜‚. Heā€™s the type of celeb to be like ā€œIā€™m bored, what are my fans doing?ā€ Like omg pookie you genuinely curious what Iā€™m up to??? I feel so specialšŸ˜­ he feels his real persona can come out online better than irl? I think itā€™s a shyness thing.
źŖ”Ģ¤Ģ„ Now since he grew up in the spotlight please take into consideration since bts is his 2nd family a lot of the things I discuss would include them especially 3rd and 4th house but Iā€™ll just call them family also
3rd house: Pisces 23Ā°
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First off we already know how dreamy and passionate he is when it comes to his communication skills, in school years he couldā€™ve been the kid nobody noticed in class, also bullying couldā€™ve been a issue, the type to sleep through class, also his siblings could be talented as well, he/they could have many secrets they share between each other. Iā€™m getting that it could be hard for him to remember his upcomings sometimes because like it genuinely flew over his headšŸ’€ like yes he was there but he wasnā€™t there mentally sometimes lol same. Saturn in this house his siblings/ family were strict on him he could be shy when it comes to expressing his emotions like itā€™s hard to just pinpoint one emotion when you feel everything all at once so that could discourage him from expressing himself. Also he couldā€™ve been lied to /left out often and didnā€™t even know it omgšŸ˜­ now donā€™t get me wrong even tho a lot of things fly past his head heā€™s VERY MUCH self aware he just doesnā€™t care fršŸ’€ also since his 3rd house ruler is in the 1st the scenario that comes to mind is like someone seeing your sibling out and public and the first thing they ask is ā€œwhereā€™s your brother(Jk)?ā€ Saturn can represent the father and disciplinešŸ„ŗ trying not to cry while type this) him and his siblings went through a lot of difficult times together but also they taught him so much he has sooo much respect for them he knows he wouldnā€™t be the same person today without them omg like they really raised himšŸ„ŗšŸ„ŗšŸ˜­
4th house: Aries 26Ā°
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Now he couldā€™ve had an erratic home life he couldā€™ve moved around a lot & moved far away at a young age since Venus is in the 9th. There is a lot of mars masculine energy here so he likes chaos/excitement in his home also lots of sporty/action stuff around the house I feel like when he first met bts it was like his first taste of freedom in a way. I tell ya rn there was never a dull moment where he lived lol. Him and his family were always in competition with someone they had to fight for their place. Struggle wise at times he couldā€™ve been FIGHTING for his life lots of arguments and aggression (which makes sense since they said they didnā€™t really get along at first)but with the Taurus degree there was definitely struggles with money and food / stability and personal possessions which drove him to work even harder. His 4th house ruler being in the 10th is giving I grew up at workšŸ˜ŸšŸ˜”
5th house: Taurus 22Ā°
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Firstly heā€™d be such a great dad šŸ„ŗ a really funny one too šŸ˜‚ . His flirting style is not flirting at allšŸ˜Ž well kinda heā€™s more of gift giving person. His love language is genuinely opening up to you because he barely gets to do that fr, for Capricorns thatā€™s a big thing. Things like showing you the most simple smallest things that means sm to himšŸ„¹šŸ„¹ to things he created. also food is big to him like the key to his heart actually, that man loves his food! be ready to be wined and dined and spoileddd. He loves traveling, dancing, music, philosophies & beautiful things so heā€™ll want to get your input on almost everything he wants to pick your brain lol. Also heā€™s really clingy thatā€™s important to him physical touch but he really doesnā€™t open up much because he knows he has a lot to lose so he definitely isnā€™t a fling type of guy he likes to build a foundation with someone unless itā€™s like a one time thing out of the country where he knows heā€™ll probably never see you again so might as well act on his instincts. He could be into choking/restrictions, taboos, spontaneity, feet??? One of his erotic zones is his neck. Also his siblings influence his creativity heavily because he knows they know whatā€™s best for him. What he considers as fun is eatingšŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ‘€ playing some games, cooking, listening to his fav music, drinking, cleaning doing laundry like heā€™s such a simple man that a good day for him would be staying home all day šŸ˜‚
6th house: Gemini 14Ā°
Heā€™s very versatile he likes learning he hungers for knowledge. He keeps a strict routine but still likes to switch it up cause he gets bored easily. He was very young when he started working and also he was one of the youngest of his peers so Gemini here makes sense also as he is naturally curious he likes working with his peers/ siblings and unique personalities. He likes traveling also and trying the different types of food they have and shopping there also he obviously spoils his pets feeds them the best food keeps them well groomed, itā€™s in a mutable sign so I wouldnā€™t be surprised if he had many types of animals but heā€™ll want to cuddle a lot with them so idk if heā€™ll be keen to reptilians with such a busy career atm. Heā€™ll also be very vocal with them they could know a lot of tricks that he taught them. Heā€™d like to travel with them also if he has the chance to, Taurus in his 5th he loves to dress them up and pamper them, wouldnā€™t be surprised if he was having danceoffs against them lmao šŸ˜‚
7th house: Cancer 6Ā°
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Let me tell you somethingā€¦. This is HUSBAND MATERIAL RIGHT HERE. The type to be like ā€œI can fix them.ā€ Cause he loves a challenge but heā€™d actually be able to fix them nglšŸ˜­. But first letā€™s get into how other people perceive him on a 1-1 basis. Now with both these planets being in the 8th itā€™s very evident that theyā€™d want to jump his bones/ spiral into obsession/ an awakening after meeting him. People naturally spill their hearts out to him, definitely a trauma dumping placement. Ofc people are gonna baby him itā€™s like he brings out peopleā€™s maternal instincts they just wanna keep him safešŸ„¹ but this is also how he treats everyone, with genuine love and respectā¤ļø also he could get shy easily like the bunny Thumper from Bambi šŸ„¹
8th house: Leo 14Ā°
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Okay now bare with me on this one because itā€™s hard to really understand stelliums if you donā€™t have one in ur chart, but what Iā€™ve noticed is no matter what they seem to get put in situations that correlate with the house the stellium is in, which causes them to focus on the opposite house to balance the energyā€™s out. Now first off this man has some HEAVY good karma from the past life he honestly deserves every abundant thing that comes to him x2. As you know he is very keen on perfectionism and order, I refuse to believe he wasnā€™t some cult leader /powerful witch or something in the past life. Especially a VIRGO stellium in the 8??!!? He was/is a natural born healer šŸ„¹šŸ„¹ no doubts about it especially with his moon at a 0Ā° so the moon is in its pure element no matter the sign heā€™s here to experience those raw emotions. Iā€™ve never met someone with their moon degree at 0 cause its hard to find but i had a manager that had a cancer Venus 0Ā° and when I tell you she made me feel soo special šŸ„¹šŸ„¹ like you can feel how genuine she is she loved giving gifts and making sure everyone was okay like the energy was so PURE and innocent in a way it reminds me of jungkook and his acts of service . Also which is why I get why everyone thought he was a Leo moon cause he is in sidereal Astro but I donā€™t get that egoistic attitude from him if anything itā€™s the opposite. I donā€™t want this section to be too long so Iā€™ll move on to his pleasuresšŸ˜ˆ heā€™s into praising, teasing, creampies, being rough, nipple play, playful banter, degrading, car s*x, breast/chest, backshots, anal, heavvvy on oral and hand play the type to tie you up šŸ˜³ he could possibly be LGBTQ+ friendly if ykwim since he has prominent Aquarius and Virgo is a mutable sign known for their curiosity and versatility, and yk Virgos are obsessed with perfection and cleanness so Iā€™m assuming he likes to get extra messy and wet during the act and heā€™s not finished with you till you BOTH climax he refuses to be known for bad s*xšŸ˜¤ he likes to make a scene/put on a show. But like I said earlier with his moon and mercury conjunct he needs a strong emotional and mental connection with you before he does anything. His 8th house is so interesting I could go on and on but nošŸ˜
9th house: Virgo 23Ā°
Jungkook is very sharp when it comes to the 9th and 8th house since theyā€™re very important in fulfilling his life purpose. In later years school people couldā€™ve seen him as perfect in a way very organized and on point probably a teachers pet or honestly it couldā€™ve been the other way around šŸ˜¹ ofc half the class had some type of crush on him or was just naturally curious about him but still with that Pisces degree he lowkey didnā€™t care to be there in a way he probably was absent often but the teachers didnā€™t care cuz hello??? Itā€™s jk.šŸ„“ Letā€™s not forget his Libra Venus is in this house as well so heā€™s natural charming without trying esp to foreigners (9th). He has a strong connection to his past life so Iā€™m thinking heā€™s like a green witch in a way? Like healing/manifesting when cooking or in nature around plants and animals, singing or just by listening to someone who needs to vent or vise versa. When he travels he needs EVERYTHING to be clean and in place to make sure him and his people are safe bc if not heā€™ll spiral also he could get jet lagged easily but by now he probably has a routine that helps with that. Also I wouldnā€™t be surprised if he got married to a foreigner, someone in his circle that heā€™s known for a long time. Ngl I have Libra 19Ā° in 9th and I tend to get reallly curious when I travel ifykwim šŸ„“šŸ«£ I really like to experience the people aswell as the location that Iā€™m in to get the full experience. Also with the Pisces degree heā€™s more likely to do substances like šŸš¬ and drinking when heā€™s with his siblings/cousins/ traveling
Mc : Libra 26Ā°
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His mother has a heavy Venus influence on him, Iā€™m getting his family altogether was close-knit growing up. Heā€™s known for his worldwide aesthetics, and basically being perfect boyfriend/husband material. Hes known to be easily loved by many, but heā€™ll mostly be know for the pain heā€™s experienced, his healing abilities, and his versatility in skills. His Chiron is in this house so most of his pain comes from the industry heā€™s in, authority, and his public image, with it being at a 29Ā° his ego can hurt him the mostšŸ˜³ which is why I donā€™t understand why people would get that cocky vibe from him other than his mars. With a Scorpio mars here heā€™ll also be known as a big sex symbol/someone who brings strong reactions out of people. Since itā€™s also the ruler of his 11th house so heā€™ll be known for his viscous and obsessive fans especially online. Heā€™s prone to getting many stalkers/sesangs with how heavy his 10th and 11th house is with Scorpio energy and peers see him as competition even though they see heā€™s not a malicious person. On the positive side tho heā€™ll have the ability to feel & see what goes unseen, peopleā€™s hidden motives and desires, and so will his fans!! IykykšŸ‘€ Also mars represents passions and pleasure so he could have a thing for love at the workplace, maybe into older/mature people or power play. He could have a porn addiction, definitely into some kinky šŸ’© with that Aquarius degree. yall plz donā€™t cancel me Iā€™m just reading his chart. šŸ˜­
11th house: Scorpio 22Ā°
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His internet presence with have good longevity, this house has to do with our wishes, Iā€™ve been saying I really feel like he did something in the past life to ā€œseal the dealā€ fame wise because thatā€™s what his chart is giving doesnā€™t necessarily mean he did something bad but there was definitely intentional manifestation there. Esp with the kill or be killed degree here you donā€™t have room for mistakes. Yall this man is a stalker big timmme like he stalks us reallll bad but also so does his fans šŸ˜¹šŸ˜¹ itā€™s definitely a 2-way street I wouldnā€™t be surprised if he had a spam twitter account to watch us start army warsšŸ’€. If you have Pluto in 11th you know how hard it is NOT to stalk people onlinešŸ˜©??? I donā€™t even care about the people I stalk Iā€™m just nosey asf lmao. His Pluto is at 2Ā° so he could get a lot of gifts from seasangs esp food and material things Iā€™ve heard him speak on these topics also. Theyā€™ll try to expose him for having fun since Taurus is in his 5th house,ie while out at restaurants, shopping, his creative endeavors, his love life, or just when heā€™s at his most comfortable, and children.(Omg? The way that sesang incident with Enwoo just happened right after I typed this wthšŸ˜³)He understands how crucial his privacy is for his protection so heā€™ll choose not to post as much. Heā€™s the friend in the group with the silent power/ magneticistm, he prefers to befriend people who understands his deep emotions, friends that have also went through traumatic experiences, I wouldnā€™t be surprised if he was apart of a online community secretly so he can feel normal for once. Also heā€™s known as the sexy emo friend lmao with the cool tats and piercings that smokes cigarettes to look cool šŸ˜Ž he also prefers to befriend people who look like this also
12th house: Sagittarius 14Ā°
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Sag in your chart is where your blessings are & what youā€™re optimistic about. Also where you tend to be a little pessimistic. Sagittarius reminds me of the feeling a sugar rush/liqour gives you, while Capricorn reminds me of the come down afterwards regretting all the decisions you made and how youā€™ll never do it again. Like Iā€™ve said this whole time he is spiritually gifted and he has strong connection to his past life. He has a lot of Deja vu moments, the things/hobbies he loved then he loves in this life also it brings him a lot of fulfillment. Heā€™d prefer to be in solitude than to be around people but his Jupiter is in Aquarius so this part is a bit oddā€¦ heā€™s comfortable having cameras around when heā€™s secluded esp with friends but in public??? He hates it especially when heā€™s not with anyone he knows I think he has social anxiety šŸ„ŗ couldā€™ve been overweight in the past life thatā€™s probably where his love for food comes from, heā€™ll be blessed with assets abroad from his homeland. He could look really similar to what he did in the past life I wouldnā€™t be surprised if he was a bunny or something.
źŖ”Ģ¤Ģ„ Thatā€™s it for now till next timeā¤ļø check back for updates
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9800sblog Ā· 1 year ago
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hi jes since you love mingi have you ever wonder of his ascendant sign? šŸ¤” do you ever make a post about it?
so your ascendant sign is basically your natural features and your public persona, here's the thing tho: I have autism, I automatically see details first, which makes rising signs obsolete to me. I rarely think people fit their ascendant, I usually see the venus sign more evidently. that being said, I am not the most reliable source for that! however, @theastromind and @romatique both have calculated for me and said he's a sagittarius rising, I AM STILL NOT CONVINCED BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME but mingi does have venus in virgo which can be pretty similar.
my knowledge in astrology mostly comes from how the solar system works, it feels more real to me, it's easier to understand the general characteristics and I was a big astronomy nerd back in school so it's just, it just easier like that for me.
either way, I've noticed in other celebrities that sagittarius risings have prominent and weird noses, I've always been very attracted to mingi's nose I think it's chic, so pretty. mingi's public persona being intimidating, womanizer, cool and trendy, friendly makes much sense too. dude's a rapper and a dancer, like jupiter is the fastest moving planet on our system. also his hair is always bright and different than others, and a lot of his style on camera is based on anime characters - jupiter/sagittarius is about expansion so it makes sense that mingi is so influenced by foreign culture and so popular amongst foreigners and those that are very different from him (mingi is very popular with black and latin atiny although he is neither and also extroverted, party goer atinys although he says he's always home, has no friends and is a weeb). jupiter is also the largest planet in our system so him being tall and feeling the need to be loud and sexual to gain public attention also makes sense. there's also the red stains on jupiter's "surface" which looks very beautiful and attractive from afar but if you look closely, you find out it's an endless storm that happens in it's sky. other curious facts: jupiter has rings like saturn but they're invisible to the naked eye - mingi is an idol and has to hide relationships and personal achievements and materials; 1 day in jupiter lasts like 10h on earth - mingi is an idol, his appearance and persona changes way often due to different concepts; jupiter is a gassy planet, it has no rocks, and mingi has a big perfume collection kkkkkkkkkkkk; jupiter is unhabitable and toxic for humans and mingi has lilith in sagittarius + moon in cancer, he has a constant struggle between what is expected of him and what he feels comfortable doing, mingi's gonna suffer a lot until he learns that he doesn't need to change to be loved and learn to put up safe boundaries. I feel like a sagittarius rising makes someone bound for fame, as it's such a big, impactful sign that has so much attention to it's appearance - full of moons, and auroras and rings, and the beautiful red tint. also, mingi looks very good in red and his favorite color is currently gray which are both the colors of the planet.
in the future I wanna make a full analysis of his birth chart because I find him interesting to understand, he's so contradicting and always changing but also so consistent. very interesting person, I've hit jackpot with this guy
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fixedfour Ā· 2 years ago
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i hope this isn't like a "why are u sending this to me?" kind of ask n im rlly sorry if it is but ive noticed certain vedic placements in athletes charts. pushya (justin jeffersons, nick bosas AND george kittles moon, evan mcphersons sun/mercury), shravana (jalen hurts and tee higgins moon + ja'marrs venus), uttara ashada (steph curry/joey bosas moon, ja'marrs ketu, tee higgins sun), hasta (travis kelces sun/mars, george kittles sun, fred warners and josh allens rahu) + mrigashira (christian mccaffrey and jordan pooles sun, josh allens moon) ... do yk if any of these placements make for talented people/athletes? or like an assist to prominent fame? especially pushya and hasta cause jesus lol
these are EXACTLY the kind of asks I want!! šŸ’Œ i take any opportunity to talk about astrology tbh šŸ„“ almost donā€™t know where to start lmao
iā€™m not an expert by any means, this is just what iā€™ve observed!Ā 
commonĀ ā€˜athleticā€™ placements are usually mars in scorpio/aries (especially jyeshta), mars in 1st, 4th, 7th, and 10th houses, exalted mars, and planets in sun + mars ruled nakshatras/zodiacs, especially in sun/moon/rising (so basically mars/sun influence lol) ā¤ā™‚ uttara ashadha, mrigashira def fall under here!Ā 
sun + mars are as typicallyĀ ā€˜masculineā€™ as you can get
BUT! iā€™ve seen prominent Taurus, Virgo, and Capricorn charts completely dominate during games, and a LOT of the men you mentioned have placements here! Tee Higgins has a stellium in Capricorn (swoons) and Christian McCaffrey has a stellium in Taurus (just to mention a couple)
christian has his mercury in krittika, (at 0Ā° Taurus, the purest degree to manifest any sign) and itā€™s sun ruled! and he can CUT his way through a field (krittika pun lol šŸ”Ŗ )Ā 
earth signs literally move different on the field, who would have thought šŸ¤­ so earth signs def stick out to me esp in tight ends, running backs, etc. theyā€™re in their natural state lolĀ 
moon + mercury are also relevant when it comes to achieving fame as moon rules the masses, and mercury rules speech/communication/hands (plus mercury has moon dna <3) so the power of influence is strong lolĀ 
shravana and hasta are also ruled by the moon! and theyā€™re both settled in an earth sign, Capricorn + Virgo. pushya, although ruled by saturn, is found in Cancer! (moon). pushya is such a beautiful, nourishing placement though, it almost seems out of place among all the othersĀ 
cristiano ronaldo, tom brady, have pretty significant placements in cancer, and they both respectively stand out in their field of work! so again, the moon will forever play a role in fame tbh
and honestly, it depends on the position in sport they play as well to read the chart omg! for ex, a quarterback may not have the most earth placements, but charged with sun energy, it would make him a great leader on the field
i hope this wasnā€™t a drag to read, and i hope this made sense lmaoo
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blacksunscorpio Ā· 4 years ago
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Astro Musings No. 10
ProminentĀ Lilithā€¦
in a chartĀ  can be found in people who work in areas like defending the rights of women, refugees, the under-privileged; in international law, in war zones, in womenā€™s refuges. These individuals are gutsy advocates, activists... typically the people who experience the darker side of humanity and as a result, know the truth about it. The truth the general population would like to sweep under the rug. Youā€™ll see this feminine energy surrounding the dishonored, rejected and abused. One who feasts on a never ending sampler of the deepest ends of the emotional spectrum; rage, grief, all forms of toxicity, past-life and trans-generational residues and influences, conception/in-utero/birth traumas. This where the ā€œcurseā€ label comes in, as anyone with strong Lilith positions is a carrier of the same, the accumulation of off all these attributes. She will be a receptor of it as well as a deliverer. She will also use it to her advantage and can become someone quite feared and respected.
Prominent Lilith in a manā€™s chart will usually indicate that he will act out Lilithā€™s issues through a partner or project Lilithā€™s issues onto them. There are likely to be issues with the mother. Very similar to a Moon in Scorpio in a manā€™s chart or moon in the 8th. He may also attract partners who are very strong in their femininity and the quintessentialĀ ā€œman-eaterā€.
Those with Saturn in Capricorn
Will usually find themselves being the ambitious types-especially regarding school or their career. Saturn is discipline and in its element in Capricorn [ruled by Saturn].Ā 
12th House Stelliums in Synastry or Composite
Can indicate a spiritual-like connection. A deep emotional connection with a ton of emotional involvement. Very likely two people ill appear in each otherā€™s dreams. May even indicate a telepathic connection with heavy Neptunian house influence. However it can also indicate undoing by either one of the natives to the other. In addition, it can indicate a relationship that has hidden aspects. Often this is seen in relationships that are forbidden or forced to be kept secret in some way. Be careful with unrequited love here as well as deception. Heavy 12th House has this nasty knack for making those with itā€™s influence feel euphoric and even dreamy but it can be hard to ascertain where things are working for or against you. Asteroid Aphrodite Touching the Moon
Will accentuate a nativeā€™s beauty and sensuality. Their emotional expression will be seen asĀ ā€œbeautifulā€ by others. This is a common placement found in actresses and even models. If in the 1st house this will be quite akin to having Venus [Aphroditeā€™s Roman counterpart] on the ascendant. If in the 5th house, a native might find themselves having frequent casual flings that will be catalyzed by someone being attracted to their physical appearance.
Placement found inĀ ā€œSex workersā€ Will often be
Venus or Mars in the 10th, 6th, or 2nd
Pluto or Scorpio on the Midheaven
Uranus in the 2nd 6th or 10th [Uranus equates things that are unconventional and rebellious. It also rules theĀ ā€˜Avant Gardeā€™. On a career or Money house this can indicate one who makes money or has an unconventional career]
Mars in Aquarius [Pornographic actor James Deen has this placement]
Mars in the 8th
Mars touching Neptune [Neptune can indicate fantasy/illusion/acting + Mars = sex]
MARS IN CAPRICORN [Actress Sasha Gray has this placement]
Venus aspecting Mars Lilith and/or Pluto
Venus in the 8th
Dominant Lilith
Strong Asteroid Eros [433], Nymphe [875], Lust [4386]. or Priapus[H22]
Mars in Scorpio
Those with Mars in Pisces
Are quite passive with their aggression. They do not like conflict and typically hate drama but some can find themselves being subversive in their tactics. If badly aspected this can indicate cowardice or one who resorts to manipulative in order to assert their will.
ā€œSister Signsā€
Such as Taurus and Scorpio, Leo and Aquarius,Ā Aries is opposite to Libra, and Cancer to Capricorn are opposite each other yes but they are consideredĀ ā€œSistersā€ because of the way in which they balance each other out There is always give and take. Taurus is practical and down to earth while Scorpio is existential, Aries sets things off while Libra diplomatizes, Cancer feels and nurtures while Capricorn executes. Moon in the 8th House can indeed make someone think of sex often. 8th house is ruled by Pluto/Scorpio and the house that rules sex and the Moon is one, if not the most receptive point in the natal horoscope. As a result, a native with this placement may find themselves immersed in 8th house thoughts
Jupiter in the 8th House Iā€™ve mentioned before in a manā€™s chart can indicate one who is well endowed [BDE]. In a womanā€™s chart it can be an indicator of one who is OVER sexed. The highest sex drives live here because Jupiter EXPANDS. Mars in this house is also a pretty powerful contender.Ā 
Gaslighting...
In astrology, despite common misconception isnā€™t always a Plutonic attribute but a NEPTUNIAN one. Though Pluto is a master tactician and can often probe to the deepest levels of the psyche, Neptune can downright pull the wool over oneā€™s eyes. Neptune rules confusion, illusion, deception and trickery [as can Mercury]. If there is someone in your life that has a nasty habit of this [natally or in synastry] check to see if
Neptune is aspecting Nessus
Neptune squaring/opposing Mars
Neptune squaring/opposing Mercury [Decepion/mind]
Neptune squaring/opposing Moon [Deception/Feelings]
Neptune squaring/Opposing.conjunct Nessus [Deception/abuse]
Neptune squaring/IOpposing Pluto
Neptune squaring/opposing Sado [Deception/perversion/abuse]
Neptune squaring/opposing asteroid Psyche No. 16 [Deception/Mind/innerworld]
Piscean influence or 12th House influence debilitated/afflicted.
Ladies and and Gentlemen, If you find yourself attracting predatory creepers who happen to be in the older age range...
This is likely due to some sort of Capricorn or Saturn placement touching your Venus.Ā Saturn represents theĀ ā€œfather figureā€Ā and when touching a receptive sexual/feminine planet like Venus, older men may prey on you. This is especially likely if there is a cross aspect to Pluto which adds obsession.
Moon/Saturn
in hard aspect can be an indicator as well.
Priapus touching Venus with Saturn
in the mix can indicate these older men will do anything to fuck you. Priapus is wild sexual abandon and need to merge [but the male version, heā€™s Lilithā€™s counterpart].
5th House Stellium with Saturn in the Mix
or a 5th house in Capricorn can indicate feeling restricted in the area of fun. 5th house is naturally ruled by Leo/the Sun and is the are of life that rules leisure, enjoyment, children/childhood, casual relationships [often of the sexual variety]. When Saturn is here, he can restrict or add a touch of maturity to the aforementioned areas. This could be the person who had to grow up faster than everyone else for whatever reason. This can also be the person who feels blocked from innocent expression of love and therefore they can be terrified of committing. They can be socially reserved, shy, awkward and/or naturally distant even if they deeply crave relationships. People can misjudge their temperament for indifference or coldness but in reality they canā€™t help it. This is not to say that they will never become emotionally/romantically involved, but more so it may take a longer time than others. Having benefics in said house can help combat the effect of Saturn [depending on harmonious or challenging aspects.]
When Jupiter is transiting one of your angles...
This is Usually an indicator of a lucky break and or windfall. Even more so if Uranus is in harmonious aspect to said angle. The luck can come out of the blue.
If aspecting the 10th, this can mean lucky break in the career.
Ā The 4th, Perhaps a lucky break in family or even a pregnancy.Ā 
The 8th a lucky inheritance from a family member.Ā 
7th, Luck in love.
Malefic Uranus in Natal or SynastryĀ 
can indicate where one feels abandoned. Uranus is aboutĀ ā€œsudden breaksā€ so often if it is touching 4th, Sun, or moon it can indicate someone whose family has been plagued with Divorce. I often seen Sun inconjunct or square Uranus in charts of people whose father was absent or split from life right away. Moon in hard aspect to Uranus can be an indicator of an absentee mother.Ā 
Composite Charts with Stelliums
Indicate that the planets and houses will be integral parts of the relationship
1st House stelliums indicate that the coupleā€™s image and personalities will be significantly affected. All 1st house dealings will be accentuated. This will be a karmic relationship.
2nd House stelliums indicate the couple will be very concerned with material values or even quite possessive of each other. They may make money together. Gift giving can be a big factor in the relationship. Careful for neptune here as it can indicateĀ ā€œstealingā€ of resources.
8th House stelliums indicate the relationship will center around sex/obsession's and/or even marriage since this house is the life/death house. Karmic tie.Ā 
4th House stellium indicate family, security and comfort will be paramount If Jupiter is here, they may have [many] children together.
10th House stellium can indicate a power couple or two peopleā€™s relationship that center around their careers. They may be talked about or subject of gossip only because their relationship is akin to celebrity to others.
3rd House Stelliums in SagittariusĀ 
Will usually be one who is verbose. They have a LOT to say and since the 3rd house is ruled by mercury, planet of communication and Sagittarius is a fire sign ruled by expansive Jupiter, one is always seeking to expand their mode of thought. They may have a knack for languages. These are also the people who will do well if they travel abroad for school. The classicĀ ā€œshipping you off to boarding school in Switzerlandā€ aspect. Very Philosophical thinkers here. Akin to having a Mercury in Sagittarius.
Pluto touching the MC in Synastry
Can mean that the Pluto person can transform [for better or worse] the Midheaven personā€™s public persona, career, or reputation. For example, Brad Pittā€™s Pluto is forming a harmonious aspect to Angelina Jolieā€™s Midheaven and she went from being the bad girl/outcast of Hollywood to gaining Pittā€™s social capital the moment they got together. Her popularity increased exponentially because of him. She was more accepted due to her association with him in Hollywood inner-circles than she was before when acting out her aloof, devil-may-care, vile-of-blood sporting days.
Planets in your 1st House
Can influence your appearance just like your rising can. So even if you are a Scorpio rising, your Sun in your 1st house can make you shine despite the dark Plutonic influence on your ascendant. Aries risingā€™s are typically on the shorter and stockier side butĀ with Jupiter in the 1st it can make one Tall and Muscular. Capricorn risings with Venus in the 1st Can have RBF yes, but with Venusian influence can have a sort of Cold Beauty. Leo Risingā€™s with Saturn in the 1st can have a regal aura but a very stern or austere appearance. Virgo Risings with Mars in the 1st Can often be very graceful. The structure and detail of Virgo with the athleticism of Mars are working together Ballerinaā€™s/Dancers often have this placement.
Sagittarius on the 7th house/DSC Cusp or Sagittarian influence on Venus or 4th House can indicate marrying someone outside of your culture.
Minor Planet/Asteroid Pallas in the 3rd or touching Mercury can indicate a writer or someone who is quick witted and ambitious regarding intellect.
Positives for Venus in the 12thĀ 
typically a knack for knowing how to love others. One seeā€™s the hidden parts of others that they do not show. These are the people who wind up having complete strangers spill their guts to them because others unconsciously sense that this person is naturally sympathetic and an empath, Strong empathetic ability here. In addition Theyā€™ll attract people from all walks of life. Very go with the flow people. Easy to get along with.Ā 
A square Between Saturn and Neptune in Synastry
Often means the Saturn person can restrict the dreaminess and idealism of Neptune. Saturn wants Neptune to come back down to earth and will often call Neptune out without reservation if they catch them being less than honest. Neptune may feel stifled and unable to express their idealistic nature with Saturnā€™s rigidity involved.
CEO Placements
Strong Cardinal Energy/Dominant Cardinal Modality in the Chart
Leo Midheaven/Strong Leonine Influence in the chart/angles
Taurus Midheaven
Mars/Aries Midheaven [Bill Gates has this Placement]
Capricorn/Saturn Midheaven [Jeff Bezos has this placement]
10th House Stelliums
Capricorn Risings
Scorpio Sun
Saturn in Scorpio
Saturn in Capricorn [Warren Buffet Has this Placement]
Earth Placements on the Angles
North Node influenced by Jupiter
Saturn, Mars, Pluto, or Jupiter as the Most elevated Planet
Hate to Break it To You
But if your North Node or Your Partnerā€™s North node is squaring many Planets in synastry, this indicates a bit of an ā€œuphill battleā€ regarding the relationship. The life purposes of two people are at odds. Though there can be tons of passion involved, two people can either encourage each otherā€™s bad habits [usually the case with Jupiter] or Commitment may never be solidified [Uranus]. Venus squaring the north NodeĀ can indicate pain regarding love or just two people who may never get a chance to tell each other how they really feel.Ā 
Those with Venus in Aries
Can be quite selfish in love. Aries is ruled by Mars, ruler of the 1st house that is all about theĀ ā€œIā€. As a result, oneā€™s loving style can be very egoic. These are usually the Takers in the relationship. They may find balance with someone who has Libran placements on their sexual planets but the give and take can feel unequal if Venus in Aries isnā€™t careful. Adversely, those with Venus in Libra or Mars in Libra need to take care to not be noodle-backs in romance. Love doesnā€™t always mean self-sacrifice or running yourself dry. Itā€™s natural for those with these placement to appreciate reciprocity in relationships. After all, Libra is the scales. Balance. If you see that you are giving more than you are receiving, donā€™t be afraid to draw a boundary and set things straight with whomever might be taking advantage.
A positive for Venus in Aries is there decisiveness in romance, however. They know what they want and arenā€™t afraid to cut the fat if someone is not meeting their expectations. Rarely will you see this person suffering from self-worth issues. These are ferocious flirts. The kind of person who will ask you out first.
Strengths of Mercury as the Most Elevated Planet
Mensa Level IQ
Inventive
Witty
Quick
Agile
Dexterity
Easy Reading Comprehension
Excellent Writing Capabilities
Fine tuned to detail
Orderly
Funny [especially if Jupiter is touching]
Nessus in Capricorn
Can mean Dad was abusive or some Dominant parental figure could be/couldā€™ve been a big source of Pain. in the 9th they could have demonstrated this by forcing the native to take up a belief system or secondary education that matched their values as opposed to the natives. Work can also be a source of abuse here or these natives can work themselves to death.
Sado in Gemini
Ā can mean one who can hurt with their words or can mentally abusive someone.
Those with Mercury in Earth Signs [Cap, Virgo, Taurus]
Find it VERY difficult to accept facts or figures without evidence. These are the skeptics. The ones who need proof. One who has this placement may think your love for conspiracy theories, or belief in ghosts is silly.Ā 
Love Languages for the Signs are:
Aries-
Physical Touch/Words of affirmation. Mars is Masculine/Yang in nature. Code? Regardless of gender/orientation subscription- they loooooove their ego stroked. They love the fire stoked and are the ultimate Hype Men/Women. In their personal and public lives. The two languages work in tandem with Ariesā€™ basic needs. You know an Aries loves you if they are cheering you on or giving you a headlock hug. They feel appreciated if this is reciprocated.
Taurus-Ā Receiving Gifts.Ā Taurus is ruled by Venus which rules the 2nd house of Money and Values. As a result, buying shit for a Taurus or showering them with expensive gits reaffirms the sentiment of love for them. Theyā€™ll often do the same.
Gemini- Words of Affirmation. This Chatty Sign loves to converse. They feel good when theyā€™re able to socialize and exchange ideas. The sapiosexuals of the zodiac. As a result, words of affirmation tend to be their favorite mode of romantic/platonic expression. Giving or receiving.Ā 
Cancer-Ā  Acts of Service. Cancer is the sign of nurturing. Ruled by the moon, the celestialĀ ā€œmotherā€ these natives donā€™t feel good if theyā€™re not able to care for something or someone [no matter their hard exterior].Ā 
Leo- Physical Touch/Words ofĀ Affirmation. Youā€™re doing it wrong if youā€™re not physically loving on a Leo or Telling them theyā€™re awesome. Leoā€™s LOOOOOOVVEEE their ego stroke. Itā€™s a fire sign thing. Plus, being the Lionā€™s they are, they need to feel that they are being recognized/worshipped. As a result, positive verbal reinforcement followed by a kiss or a hug usually does the trick for these natives.
Virgo- Acts of Service/Words of Affirmation. Virgo is mercury minded. Hence they work quite cerebrally. They need to HEAR you tell them something. Be it feelings, how theyā€™re doing well, etc. However they are an earth sign thatā€™s ruled by the 6th House of work and routine. Youā€™ll find coaches, trainers, med professionals etc.,Ā here. Hence, acts of service tends to be a very Virgo-esque expression of love.
Libra- Gift Giving/Receiving/ Acts of service. Libraā€™s are also ruled by Taurus which rules the material/luxury. Their love of the finer things- often aesthetically pleasing aspects in life can be hit or miss for some, as it can appear superficial at a surface level. However, they, being a more passive sign love demonstrating their love by pleasing others. Keeping things charming, chill and agreeable. Venus also likes indulgence. This is why swag coming in or going out from/to a LibraĀ  is appreciated.Ā 
Scorpio- Physical Touch/Quality Time. Scorpios are ruled by Mars [planet of Sex] and Pluto [Planet of sex] lol. Theyā€™re also a water sign thatā€™s honorary fire thanks to being co ruled by mars [Ariesā€™ ruler]. As a result, these hard-shelled arachnids appreciate physical expressions of love. As opposed to intercourse, a Scorpio is satisfied with things as simple as hand holding, to a simple kiss on the cheek. Pluto likes to merge. Scorpio is also a water and 8th house is very binding on a life and death level. The most precious resource is time and Pluto rules resources. As a result, Scorpioā€™s enjoy receiving quality/giving time to/from the people they care for.
Sagittarius- Quality Time. Though these globetrottingĀ archers have a hard time staying in one place, you know they love you if they are taking the time to be with you/putting their adventures on pause for you. In addition, they love spending time traveling and going places with those they love.
Capricorn- Gift Giving/Receiving/ Quality Time. These Goats live primarily in the material world so the fruits of their hard labor are the key to demonstrating their love to their loved ones. They also appreciate these things being given to them. Saturn is also father time and the ruler of longevity. Spending time with a Capricorn or them spending time with you is a sure-fire way to know that they give AF.Ā 
Aquarius- Words of Affirmation. These are the big thinkers of the zodiac. So when they are working in their service/socially-minded modes, they appreciate being told that what they do makes a difference and is appreciated. They are also air signs so they primarily work through intellect.
Pisces- Quality Time. These Neptune ruled fish are the empaths of the zodiac. They feel everything so at times itā€™s importantĀ to haveĀ someone around to be there for them. That is why Quality time is often big on a Pisceans list for primary methods of affection [giving or receiving].Ā 
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murraystan Ā· 2 years ago
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I put my astrology background to good use to figure out Murrayā€™s birthday because Iā€™m very normal and not at all feral. I analyzed the planetary motion in 1944 and hereby hypothesize that he was born at 9:30 a.m. March 23, 1944.
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Sun: Aries
Moon: Pisces
Rising: Gemini
Mercury: Aries
Venus: Pisces
Mars: Gemini
Jupiter: Leo
Saturn: Gemini
Murray fits the Aries profile pretty well - heā€™s a doer, not just a thinker, and is ready to jump in and adapt even in (or especially in) dangerous situations. Heā€™s impatient. Heā€™s brave. Heā€™s comfortable taking charge and has lots of strong opinions. Heā€™s argumentative and contrarian and can really be a pain in the ass but still has a certain charisma that people find charming. Leos have an astrological monopoly on charm but Aries people also get away with a lot because of that charisma factor, too.
Murray can read peopleā€™s emotions like a book and I canā€™t really think of anyone that does that better than a water moon. Heā€™s also very moody. Pisces moons are drawn to being caregivers and we havenā€™t really seen that from Murray but it feels right for him. A strong water element would also temper some of that Aries fire and give him a way to empathize and connect with people - which heā€™s shown that heā€™s able to do.
Iā€™m also positive he has Mercury in Aries (or Mars in Gemini) because wow does he yell a lot. Heā€™s always has spicy words to dish out.
Heā€™s also a writer, very verbose, prone to anxiety/nervous system dysfunction, and has the kind of chaotic intellectual energy Iā€™d expect from someone with Gemini prominent in their natal chart which makes Gemini rising make perfect sense. This also makes Mercury, not Mars, his chart ruler which grants it a position of special influence. A lot of people see him as a Gemini sun because heā€™s witty and brilliant, but any strong Gemini/Mercurial placement could have that effect.
Venus in Pisces works though tbh I think of him as more of a Venus in Taurus kind of guy. Those people are very sensual, direct, slow lovers and really appreciate fine music, art, and food. We never see Murray relax and let his guard down but Venus in Taurus feels right. Thatā€™s not an option in 1944 with an Aries sun, though. He doesnā€™t have the dreaminess I would expect from someone with this much Pisces influence.
Midheaven is all about aspirations and careers and Aquarius midheaven really makes sense for his past and current career. Aquarius is visionary, radical, iconoclastic, intellectual, and humanitarian. I would expect no less from an investigative journalist trying to take down the man.
I do not get Saturn in Gemini at ALL from him but this is, you know, not a real person so itā€™s the closest I could get in 1944.
I know people who arenā€™t into astrology hate this stuff so block the astrology tag if you donā€™t want to see it because I might do Joyce if I get bored. ā˜ŗļø
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everythingthemoontouches Ā· 3 years ago
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šŸ’™Hi there! , First of all i want to tell you that i love your blog! And i love how your posts are so accurate!šŸ’™ If its okay with you could you please do me a favor by describing how others see me,my appearance or more specifically the vibe I radiate to others! It would mean alot to me if you you do thatšŸ’™I'm a cancer sun,leo rising,Lilith sextile asc, Pluto trine asc, Uranus opposition asc, Moon opposition asc, mars sextile venus, mars opposition neptune, asteroid lilith conjunct mc and jupiter in the 1st house!šŸ’™
Hola!
Thank you that's really kind of you šŸ’›šŸ’•
You know that quote that says Cinderella never asked for a prince. All she wanted was a night out and a dress. You kind of exude a similar vibe but with respect to leadership positions. 'I never asked to be Queen/King, but the people have spoken' kind of an energy. You would be equally happy to be by yourself, learning about the subconscious mind, higher realms and other esoteric science.
For more on Jupiter in LEO I'd recommend watching Astrofinesse.
For jupiter in the first there's KRS.
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šŸŒ»As a Leo rising you come across as someone outgoing, with a playful energy but you're also somehow someone people would expect to see in a position of authority. You're drawn to people who stimulate you intellectually and love to exchange ideas.
šŸ˜¬If you have an Aquarius saturn you could be having some challenges in your relationships since December 2020 as saturn transits your 7th house. I'd suggest practicing discernment in this area as well as signing contracts with people until it passes( early 2023) ..
šŸ˜‡12th house sun could take on other people's energy. I feel like you need some time away, by yourself, preferably at the beach / pool/ shower to declutter, clear your head and replenish your sense of Self. You could be highly intuitive. If this resonates, I'd urge you to look up empath drain and how to protect yourself from energy vampires.
Ruler of the ascendant in the 12th :
spirituality could be a huge part of your life. For some people this could show a father (figure) who was convicted or worked in a prison / asylum. They could also have a really remote job. Since the sun is also your own personal identity, you could profit off these themes. Working in a mental health facility, overseas, in esoteric crafts.
šŸŒ›With your moon in the 7th house, you probably attract a lot of older women, (queen of swords) nurturing energies . Your mom could have a major influence on any business partnerships that you enter.
In relationships you could have a here today gone tomorrow kind of a presence. This is because as the moon waxes and wanes so does your attraction / attachment to specific people?
ā™’Aquarius moon : it could be really hard for you to express your feelings. So Instead of asking for a hug there could be a tendency to say something like ' ew imagine asking for one?' you leave a place better than you found it. If you watch hindi movies, 3 Idiots could be a movie you really resonate with. ( I pretty much spent the day looking up the lead actor, who has major aquarius placements and his films have always been disruptive with a really nice social message that left people talking for years after they were released. I tell you this because he shares 2 of your big 3 - aquarius and cancer.)
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Going off on this tangent you could be a well respected teacher / writer / entertainer. Jupiter in LEO could help with this.
I do feel like you need a certain amount of inventiveness in your relationships. The people you're with are people who introduce you to new hobbies / ideas / technologies. You need to feel like you guys learn something new or create something that matters together. This is enhanced by uranus in the 7th house. You could come across really cold because you always give people the naked honest truth when asked. You do this from a place of love. I'm reminded of the Queen of Swords card in the rider Waite tarot. Not everyone has the maturity to take it. Or maybe they've just had a bad day. It is what it is. Perhaps try to not be so incisive if this is something you struggle with.
In the same vein, if I asked you to write down how you were feeling how long would it take for you to identify the right emotion. How honest are you with yourself?
Moon and Uranus being in the same house could show that stagnation could really hurt your mental health / happiness / satisfaction levels.
With a saturn ruled moon I feel like I need to remind you to not be so hard on yourself. Like. The world won't crumble to dust if you allow yourself to take care of you once in a while.there's only so much you can do.
All those coffee mugs will catch up. There's no such thing as extra hours in the day. A lack of sleep manifests as early signs of aging. No hate for the elderly but arthritis is not a fun ailment to have. Do you wanna be 60 with 80 year old nervous system problems? I rest my case.
Uranus and moon aspect your ascendant so you could have a slightly plump look?
Jupiter in the first house people usually have prominent thighs. I had a friend with this placement and when we were growing up she used to complain of chafed thighs a lot?
Mars sextile venus you could be your own type? The way you act and the way you want your future partners to express love could be quite similar which is good for healthy relationships.
There could be a tendency to spend impulsively.
With Mars sextiling venus you could be someone who earns more the more active their lifestyle is? Like, you may need to be an agile learner to keep money flowing in .
Jupiter in LEO in a woman's chart usually shows they'd have a financially well off spouse so money may not be a huge concern. He could be a sailor or earn via exports/ navy. It's hard to say without knowing where your Saturn is.
The image you project to the world could be a lot more outgoing than how you actually feel. You're more private than people think.
With a fire rising, water sun and air moon you could either be a really balanced person or just have a number of clashing ideas on who to be, what to do and achieve.
Descendant : The people that hate on you could attack your need to stand out /try to dim your time in the spotlight. Think aquarius themes of standing out to improve community clashing with Leo's need to stand out solely because it helps their ego. Like your confidence could trigger the part if them that felt judged negatively for expressing their individuality.
Do you feel like you thrive in chaos? I'm guessing you're atleast in your late 20s if not older, so you might have gotten better at dealing with people acting unexpectedly. Your mom could have been unpredictable. Really intelligent, but forgets to eat ..
šŸ„¤šŸ¦€As a cancer sun, you could be the friend your friends come to for advice. There could be a tendency to be a little too selfless. I think your aqua moon really serves as a shield to those who try to take advantage of your caring nature. Have you considered a career in psychic medium ship? Or any spiritual art/ past life regression / you get the drift..
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Is there a family craft or hobby that you could monetize? Jupiter in LEO could signify ancestral gains.
Lilith and Pluto aspects to ascendant can make you come across really sexy / a bit unapproachable because people feel like you have some kind of power that places you above them?
Due to this, people with Pluto / Lilith aspects can feel some kind of hurt around people clearing up the path around them if that makes sense.
Jupiter opposite moon : there could be a clash between you want to do VS what you feel you should be doing.
Jupiter in the first house : you could have been born rich? Or people just perceive you that way. They also see you as someone wordly wise and lucky in general. You could know a lot about a wide variety of things. Specially on topics related to appearance, personal development, image consciousness etc. Since the ruler of the first is in the 12th I feel like some of your wisdom comes from a divine source. Like you're tapping into some kind of a collective reservoir of knowledge. In starseed terminology we would refer to this as downloads.
Jupiter rules the 8th house and 5th house.
So love, romance, games, early education may have been a bit of a breeze for you.
Jupiter is usually a bit of a celibate spiritual person. So, while it may make you really wise with respect to things like the occult / tarot / other 8th house themes, I'm not sure how it would impact your sex life with a spouse. Sex could be either a deeply spiritual experience for you or take on more neptunian traits. Addiction / alcoholism / drug use the works. Jupiter expands the themes of the house it rules so a word of caution there.
Travelling could bring you luck. Or even love.
Did I hear Mars opposite Neptune?
This could be a literal battlefield. You could feel like you need to work for love.if Neptune is unconditional love and Mars is your drive, then you could literally match to get to taht elusive unconditional sense of belonging /love / acceptance. But what are you marching towards really? A mirage? With this aspect I'd really be on the guard against addiction of any kind. Neptune is enticing, alluring, mocking Mars for its need to conquer. It could lend a really nice swagger to your walk. A runway model could benefit from thus placement. At uts best this aspect imbues you with creativity, inspiration, otherworldly imagination and the energy required to turn your abstract ideas of art into something tangible.
Here's a source for more on this placement. Sometimes I find that the comments really help me make sense of my own placements
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Before I sign off, I just have to say this :please try to restrict asks to 2-3 placements. You can send in multiple asks if you'd like, but answering them all in one ask can get a bit cluttered and I'd hate to miss out on something šŸ˜Š
Hope this helped šŸ’•as always, I'd really appreciate your feedback on this take on how these placements affect you.
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lady-griffin Ā· 4 years ago
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Characters That Might Be Introduced in Young Justice Season 4: Phantoms
This is just my own personal speculation, based on what I think might happen in Season 4 and what YJ has given us so far. Iā€™m sure that Iā€™ve missed plenty of characters that others 100% believe or know will be making an appearance...but, I canā€™t do anything about that.Ā 
While the majority of the characters on this list are ones we havenā€™t met before, there are a few we have met in the show - I included these characters, because I think they might be added to the ever-growing roster of heroes or have a more prominent role to play.Ā 
This is really long, but I had fun doing it and I hope you enjoy it.Ā 
Characters We've Met Already
Part I: Prominent Future Role
Ā  Ā  Ā Mā€™comm Mā€™orzz/Ma'alefa'ak
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Mā€™gannā€™s younger brother who wants to start a white revolution on Mars. We met him in season 3 during the episode of ā€œAway Mission,ā€ where he was a major focal point.
There are a couple of factors for why I think heā€™ll play a prominent role.
Heā€™s Mā€™gannā€™s younger brother and as several people have speculated upon, this seasonā€™s tagline ofĀ ā€œPhantomsā€ might be in reference to our main charactersā€™ own personal phantoms from their pasts, rather than literal ghosts. Also given how Mā€™gann has a new little brother in Gar, who was given more prominence last season ā€“ there could be something there.
Mā€™Comm wants to start a White Revolution and we know Mā€™gann, Conner, Jā€™onn, and Gar (I believe) will be heading to Mars, either before or at the beginning of Season 4. Since Jā€™onn/Martian Manhunter is usually the last Green Martian ā€“ some dark stuff may be awaiting our heroes on Mars or occur while theyā€™re there.
I think heā€™ll play a significant role in the upcoming season.Ā 
Ā  Ā  Ā Jason Todd/Red Hood
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Jason is a prominent member of the Batfamily and weā€™ve already learned thatĀ he was the Robin after Dick, but died before Season 2 began.Ā 
In Season 3 ā€“ he was also an easter egg in ā€œNightmare Monkeys,ā€ where he died in Beast Boyā€™s mind, along with other fallen comrades.
More importantly, in ā€œRescue Op,ā€ we actually met him as the Red Hooded Ninja on Infinity Island. Towards the end of that episode there was attention given to the fact that he recognized Dick and therefore his memory was returning.
I can definitely see him having a more significant part in the future. He would most likely be Dickā€™s main phantom, if thatā€™s the case for Season 4.Ā 
Ā  Ā  Ā Big Barda
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One of Grannyā€™s most loyal generals and the leader of the furies before she defects against Darkseid. We were introduced to her in Season 3, in ā€œInfluence" - she fought against the Justice League, but more importantly she was saved by Superman. While itā€™s clear that Granny hurting her or being willing to sacrifice her is par for the course, it seemed pretty clear (to me) that Superman reshaped her outlook on life.Ā 
We never saw her again, so more than likely she defected after Superman saved her.
Given her usual importance to the plot of Darkseid as well as the fact that her main love interest is Scot Free ā€“ I think there is more than a good chance weā€™ll see her again in Season 4.
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In the third season, each of these characters were introduced in a single episode. Given their significant relationships to either a character or a plot element that is important to Young Justice - it seems more than likely weā€™ll see them play a larger role in the upcoming season.
Part II: Minor Future Role
Ā  Ā  Ā Harper Rowe/Bluebird
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She was a minor character in Season 3, but she was also pretty prominent. Given that sheā€™s a hero in the comics, I can see Harper being a new hero added to the roster. I canā€™t say how prominent sheā€™ll actually be, but I can definitely see her playing a minor role.Ā  Ā Ā 
Ā  Ā  Ā Courtney Whitmore/Stargirl
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Courtney is a pretty prominent young hero in DC and she made several appearances in Season 3 ā€“ with her show (Stargirl) where she reported and interviewed young heroes. So, maybe sheā€™ll have decided instead of just interviewing heroes, sheā€™ll become one herself.Ā 
Ā  Ā  Ā Cisco Ramon/Vibe
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For a character who was just being bullied they paid a decent amount of attention to him. Now maybe he was just a prominent Easter Egg for fans (CWā€™s The Flash), but it could also be YJ laying some slight ground work for him in the future.
Ā  Ā  Ā Cassandra Cain/Orphan
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Orphan is a member of the Batfamily and her mother is Lady Shiva - The Lightā€™s new enforcer, who we got to know decently well in Season 3. Because of that, I think there could be something there to explore in Season 4.
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I donā€™t really think any of these guys will be major characters, but Iā€™m betting weā€™ll at least see them in the background as heroes. Similar to how Stephanie Brown and others were introduced as easter eggs and then in the following season we saw them working as heroes.
In addition, there are of course other minor hero/super-powered characters whom weā€™ve already met (Arrowette, Spoiler, Mist etc.) and any one of them could get more screen time, itā€™s honestly anyoneā€™s guess; I just donā€™t have anything specific to speculate about for them.
Characters We Havenā€™t MetĀ 
Part I: Legion of Super-Heroes/Time Travel
Based on the idea that the Legion of Super-Heroes and time travel could play a significant role in Season 4 ā€“ which is based on how season 3 ended with an unknown woman wearing a Legion Ring.Ā 
Legion of Super-Heroes
The Legion of Super-Heroes are a superhero team from the 31st Century; they are similar to The Justice League, but they protect and defend the United Planets.Ā 
Ā  Ā  Ā Tinya Wazzo/Phantom Girl
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Phantom Girl is a member of the Legion, so based off that and her name, thereā€™s a decent chance weā€™ll meet her. I canā€™t say how big of role sheā€™ll actually have, but I feel confident in saying this season wonā€™t be named after her; itā€™ll just be fun little tie-in, if she does make an appearance.
Ā  Ā  Ā Querl Dox/Brainiac 5
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Brainiac is a very prominent member of the Legion and knowing that they will play some role, itā€™s not a stretch to say heā€™ll also play a role.Ā 
Brainiac 5, or at least in the WB animated show, was the inventor of the Legion Ring, as well as the ability to time-travel.Ā 
Given his relation to one of Supermanā€™s greatest enemies, Brainiac, who could definitely be a threat to both the League and The Light (if Brainiac even appears), I can definitely see Brainiac 5 playing a role.Ā 
But, just his promience within the Legion is enough reason to speculate heā€™ll make an apperance.
Ā  Ā  Ā Imra Ardeen/Saturn Girl
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Given Saturn Girlā€™s usual importance and prominence to the Legion (founding member), plus the fact that it was a waitress wearing the ring ā€“ it could very well have been her at the end of Season 3.
And even if it wasnā€™t her, she will still likely make an apperance.Ā 
Other Members of the Legion of Super-Heroes who we could meet:Ā Lightning Lad, Cosmic Boy, Bouncing Boy, Triplicate Girl, Timber Wolf, Chameleon Boy, etc.
Ā  Ā  Ā Michael Carter/Booster Gold
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Booster Gold is a pretty popular character who has appeared in many other works and is intrinsically linked with time-travel. On top of that, he typically has (or had) a good friendship with the old Blue Beetle (Ted Kord), so maybe weā€™ll see some reverse-mentor relationship with him and Jaime, the new Beetle ā€“ Jaime teaching him what it actually means to be a hero.
In general, I think he would just be a fun and new kind of personality to be brought in.Ā 
Ā  Ā  Ā Future Kids (Lian Nguyen-Harper, Damian Wayne, Jon Kent, Tornado Twins, etc).
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Given how time-travel will possibly be an element in Season 4, I think thereā€™s a chance weā€™ll have an episode set in the future, starring the next generation of heroes. Maybe not all the kids we saw inĀ ā€œHome Fires,ā€ but probably some of them.
Part II: The Phantom Zone Ā 
I have the theory that Grannyā€™s X-Pit is a type of Phantom Zone or at least based off the real thing.
Granny herself even called the pit the Ghost Dimension (which just sounds like another name for the Phantom Zone). So, it seems very likely to me that given the title of Season Four, the prominence of The Phantom Zone in DC, and how the X-Pit worked in YJ -- that The Phantom Zone will make an appearance in season 4, if not play an important part.
There could be lots of ways they could incorporate it into the show.
Maybe it works as a prison. The prison cells are like the red boxes Granny used to protect herself and thus thereā€™s no chance of prisoners escaping the Zone, because if they try leave their cells, theyā€™ll experience excruciating pain
Depending on how the Phantom Zone would work in in YJ, I feel like those who escape the Phantom Zone or are from there, could be called Phantoms.
While I do personally think the tagline Phantoms will refer to our main heroesā€™ own personal phantoms, the tagline could also be in reference to other elements of the season (like the Phantom Zone).
Ā  Ā  Ā  Kara Zor-El/Supergirl
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Supergirl is an important and popular character in the DC and given the prominence of the Batfamily in YJ, it seems a bit odd that the Superfamily is rather lacking in comparison.Ā 
Supergirl has been a part of the Legion of Super-Heroes and due to her popular CW Show - she is more recently associated with the Phantom Zone. In her show, she ended up being stuck in the Phantom Zone which is why she arrived on Earth so much later than Clark. YJ could do something like that or maybe sheā€™ll have been stuck in the Phantom Zone until the 31st Century.Ā 
The introduction of Supergirl could be an interesting storyline in association with Conner (and Clark). We know that Clark has been interested in finding other Kryptonians and Kara is certainly more than just another Kryptonian.
Sheā€™s also a likely candidate to be the waitress who was wearing the Legion Ring.Ā 
Ā  Ā  Ā Mon-El
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A Daxxamite whoā€™s a member of the Legion of Super-Heroes and is also strongly associated with the Phantom Zone. Given how in Season 1, Superman thought that Shazam and Icon were potential Kryptonians, there could be something interesting there with Mon-El ā€“ especially since his species are so similar to Kryptonians.
In the comics, Mon-El had been inspired by Superboy into becoming a hero, but he was put in the Phantom Zone because he had an incurable disease; he was later saved by Brainiac 5 in the 31st Century. So that could be another potential storyline for Superboy in Season 4.
Mon-El has also gotten some more recognition in recent years, due to his role in CWā€™s Supergirl.
Also, when I was looking up a picture for him to use, I learned that there is another version of Mon-El, where he is a descendent of House El/Superman.Ā 
So maybe that version will be introduced instead of the Daxxamite one, I donā€™t know.Ā 
Ā  Ā  Ā Zod Trio -- Zod, Ursa, Non
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I donā€™t actually think these guys will be important to Season 4, if even they are introduced. But they are important Superman Villains and theyā€™re usually connected with the Phantom Zone ā€“ given how many continuities they are prisoners of said Zone.Ā 
So, it seemed silly to not speculate about them at least making an appearance or small cameo, if not something more.Ā 
Part III: Darkseid and Meta-Trafficking Ā 
Ā  Ā  Ā Scott Free/Mister Miracle
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Scott or Scot is Darkseidā€™s adopted son and the biological son of Highfather, so it feels safe to say that heā€™ll be a part of the show at some point. Especially, given the increase prominence of Darkseid as well as how much weā€™ve seen of the New Gods, Motherboxes/Fatherboxes, and the two worlds of New Genesis and Apokolips.
Scot is a defector of Apokolips or more accurately was never broken by the place. He is known for being able to escape any imprisonment - particularly Grannyā€™s Orphanage/X-Pit, so if thereā€™s a return of the X-Pit, Scot would be a great asset to our heroes.
Given how weā€™ve been introduced to the X-Pit quite thoroughlyĀ in Season 3, I think that Scotā€™s ability to free himself would be all the more impressive, and a quick way to establish this new character and his skills.Ā 
In addition, while we didnā€™t meet the real Orion, we do know that he exists in this universe. Orion is the adopted son of Highfather and the biological one of Darkseid. In the comics, Scot and Orion were traded as part of a Peace Treaty between the worlds of New Genesis and Apokolips.Ā 
Basically, heā€™s due to make an apperance.Ā 
Ā  Ā  Ā Princess Koriandā€™r of Tamaran/Starfire
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The plots of Season 2 and 3 were largely focused on the kidnapping, experimenting, and trafficking of meta-human children/teenagers, so given all of that - Starfire seems very likely to be included in YJ.
Or at the very least, YJ has laid down the groundwork for her to be introduced - whether or not theyā€™ll use that, weā€™ll have to see.
Starfireā€™s origin is that she is a Tamerean Princess who was taken and experimented on, which resulted in her gaining powers (more powers). So, in the YJ universe she would essentially be a Meta-Tamerean.Ā 
Starfire could be a great way to show that the Meta-Gene exploitation isnā€™t just an earth/human problem anymore, as many more beings across the universe are being experimented on and turned into living weapons.
Thus, expanding upon the trafficking story thread that was introduced in Season 3.Ā 
In general, Starfireā€™s origin story fits very well with the trafficking/meta-experimenting storylines that weā€™ve gotten so far and I think her presence would add something new.
Given the popularity of Teen Titans and the prominence of Nightwing, Beast Boy, and Cyborg in YJ, it seems more than likely that Star will be a character in the show.Ā 
Also, we know that Arsenal will be on the Covert Team and that Jason is alive, so maybe if Star is introduced, weā€™ll see a version of the Outlaws in YJ. Which could be fun.Ā 
Finally, she is one of Nightwingā€™s main love interests, so there could be some personal drama to be had, if the show goes down that route, which they may not.Ā 
Starfire obviously doesnā€™t have to be a love interest for Nightwing to be added into the story.Ā 
While I love RobStar (+ Dickbabs), I feel like sometimes Star is just limited to being Nightwingā€™s other girlfriend. So, if she is introduced in YJ, I would not be opposed to other storylines involving her without Nightwing.Ā 
In my personal opinion, not including Star would be such a wasted opportunity, given what YJ has already established so far.
Part IV: Zatannaā€™s ProtĆ©gĆ©(s) / Magic-Based Characters
I have a small theory, that magic might play a larger role in season 4. This is mostly based on the fact that magic has been pushed to the background in the past two seasons. Also, the title of ā€˜Phantomsā€™ makes me think of the supernatural (aka Magic).Ā 
We also know that Zatanna will have protĆ©gĆ©s, as in plural. Now she already has Thirteen, so at the very least we can say that one new magical-based character will be introduced to the team or the hero side.Ā 
Ā  Ā  Ā The Phantom Stranger
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A mysterious mystic who battles supernatural forces. Itā€™s unlikely heā€™llĀ be a protĆ©gĆ© for Zatanna, but I mentioned him first, because of his name. Which is the main reason for why I think he, out of all the magical characters in DC, could make an appearance.
Similar to Phantom Girl, I donā€™t think the seasonā€™s tagline will come from his name, but it might just be a nice little tie-in regardless.
Ā  Ā  Ā Eddie Bloomberg/Kid Devil aka Red Devil
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Blue Devil has made a few minor appearances in Seasons 1 & 2 and given how Kid Devil was once his sidekick in the comics, I think thereā€™s a decent chance Red Devil weā€™ll make an appearance.
Heā€™s a character who I think many people might not know about or at least not a lot about; and YJ does like to shine a light on those characters.
Eddie started out as human kid/teenager who became Kid Devil - sidekick to Blue Devil. He ended up making a deal with a demon and got demonic powers and looks to match - possibly related to that, he had a falling out with Blue Devil and stopped being his sidekick.
Iā€™m pretty fuzzy on the details of his story, as Iā€™m not super familiar with his character; but the broad strokes that I do know, I think could really work for YJ.
He startsĀ  out as the sidekick of Blue Devil (maybe he knows the team), but he has a falling out with Blue or goes off on his own ā€“ and gets his demonic powers, becoming Red Devil. Or something like that.
As he becomes Zatannaā€™s protĆ©gĆ© (trying to learn to control his magical powers), he also has to work on his strained relationship with Blue Devil.
It could be a similar story to Red Arrowā€™s from Season 1, a nice throwback with a new character. And a character who while being new, does already have some slight groundwork laid out for his introduction - with Blue Devil already existing in YJ.
Again, Iā€™m just throwing ideas out here and speculating.Ā 
Ā  Ā  Ā Zachary Zatara
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Several people have pointed out that Zachary is a more likely candidate to be Zatannaā€™s new protĆ©gĆ© than Raven is - who was the first person I thought of - given how Zachary is Zatannaā€™s cousin.Ā 
And yeah, I think thereā€™s a decent enough chance for him becoming a character in Season 4.Ā 
Heā€™s related to a former member of the OG Team and like Eddie, heā€™s not really a character many people are super familiar with, so that could work in his favor.
It could also be fun to have someone back on the team who has magic like Zatanna and if Zachary was part of the team, we would probably see more of Zatanna ā€“ which would be great.
One problem I do have though, is if he does exist in this universe - why didnā€™t Zatanna move in with his parent(s) (her aunt or uncle) when her father became the host for Doctor Fate.
Of course, that could just be because in season one they had never intended for him to exist in the show, but now things have changed.Ā 
And in Season 2, we were given no indication that Beast Boy had been with the Doom Patrol or that they had died tragic deaths in between the time his mother died and when he joined the team. So yeah....
Zachary is a likely candidate to be added, especially in regard to Zatanna have multiple protĆ©gĆ©s (or at least 2).Ā 
Ā  Ā  Ā Rachel Roth/RavenĀ 
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Unlike Starfire, Ravenā€™s main story arc involving Trigon doesnā€™t really relate to what has been going on in Young Justice so far.Ā Nonetheless, it seems very likely sheā€™ll be included - given the popularity of TT, plus Nightwing, Beast Boy, and Cyborg being prominent characters.Ā 
RavenĀ  shouldnā€™t be limited by the existence of Trigon; as you easily have Raven in a story, without Trigon being front and center, in my opinion. And, it would be nice seeing other storylines involving Raven that donā€™t include Trigon, or at least not having him be a major factor.
Thereā€™s nothing specific that makes me think Raven will be introduced in Season 4, but ā€“
She could definitely be Zatannaā€™s new protĆ©gĆ© or at least one of them. And, while in the comics Zatanna and Raven havenā€™t always gotten along ā€“ thereā€™s no reason that has to be the case in YJ. Plus, in Bombshells, Raven is Zatannaā€™s pseudo/adopted daughter.
Though, I think Raven being the protĆ©gĆ© of Doctor Fate might work a bit better.Ā 
Also, in regard to my personal theory that magic will become more prominent, Raven would be a great way to go about doing that, especially with her wide range of powers and abilities.Ā 
While, I donā€™t think a story needs Trigon to have Raven ā€“ her being the daughter of one of the great evils of the universe, could certainly be a bonding element for her and the other heroes who also have supervillain relatives.Ā 
Plus, Raven being the portal to Trigon (this seemingly unstoppable force) could be something interesting to explore in regards to Darkseidā€™s and the Lightā€™s plans. Maybe Darkseid and the Light would perceive Raven as a major threat and want to get rid of her and perhaps even the good guys would also see her as a threat that needs to be stopped.Ā 
Thereā€™s just so much that YJ could do with Raven. And while I would love for her a main or secondary character, I think she could be an interesting neutral party or a single-episode character.Ā 
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There are many other magical characters that could be introduced to YJ, but it feels silly to list a whole bunch of characters, just because they have magic.Ā 
Part V: Random Characters
Ā  Ā  Ā Rose Wilson/Ravager and Joe Wilson/Jericho
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Two of Deathstrokeā€™s children who operate as heroes. I can see a lot being done with these two in YJ, especially with Deathstroke being a member of the Light. They could potentially bond with the other characters who also have supervillain parents and maybe even bond with Tara over the terrible parenting skills of Deathstroke. .
Ā  Ā  Ā Natasha Irons/Steel aka Starlight aka Vaporlock
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Natasha is the niece of John Henry Irons/Steel who had a very minor role in Season 3, but nonetheless was introduced to the audience. In addition, Natasha has been associated with Infinity Inc, Lex Luthorā€™s group of ā€œsuperheroesā€ who were also introduced in Season 3.
And while I could be mistaken, as I donā€™t know much about her, when she was part of Infinity Inc., she was injected with a serum that unlocked her meta-gene, giving her powers.
Natasha could possibly be introduced in Season 4, as a lot of the elements to her story, are already part of Young Justice.Ā 
Green Lanterns
I think thereā€™s a decent chance of us meeting a new Green Lantern, especially a younger one - as they would be a member of the Covert Team or the Outsiders.Ā 
Ā  Ā  Ā Jessica Cruz/Green LanternĀ 
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She's recently been popularized or at least introduced to many fans through the show DC Superhero Girls (2019) and I think if there was a combination of that version and her comic book counterpart ā€“ you could have a really compelling character for YJ.Ā 
In the comics, Jess suffers from extreme anxiety, which is such an interesting and unique folly for a Green Lantern to have. And, I just think thereā€™s a lot of story potential to be explored in that dilemma.Ā 
Ā  Ā  Ā Keli Quintela/Teen Lantern
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From what Iā€™ve seen of Keli, I think she could be a fun addition. Just for the sheer fact that she uses the Green Lantern power completely different than every other Lantern weā€™ve seen ā€“ that alone is enough reason for her to be added.
Ā  Ā  Ā Kyle Raynor
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One of the major Green Lanterns of DC. Like the two ladies above, thereā€™s nothing specific with what weā€™ve been given so far in YJ to indicate heā€™ll be included, but I just think because of his status among fans, if the show was to introduce another GL ā€“ he has a decent shot.
Ā  Ā  Ā Vic Sage/Question
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Since Season 1, I thought Question would be a great addition to the hero side ā€“ as the typical conspiracy stuff he obsesses over and discovers to be true, actually does align with what The Light has consistently been doing.
In general, he would be a fun character to add. Also, if weā€™re thinking of potential new protĆ©gĆ©s - Vic Sage could be the current Question and there could be a young (or at least somewhat young) Renee Montoya - under his care/tutelage. Or Renee could just be Question - either works for me.
I loved Question in JLU and would love to see him again.
Finally,
Wally West/ Kid Flash (former)
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I think thereā€™s a very good chance weā€™ll see the return of Wally in Season 4. Especially since Season 3 left us with many little hints that heā€™s not really dead.
Also, in regards to the idea that the tagline of ā€œPhantomsā€ could be about the teamā€™s personal ghosts haunting them, well Wally is a ghost for many of our characters - so that fits rather perfectly.
Or, maybe he ended up in the Phantom Zone. Or if ā€˜Phantomsā€™ is referring to more literal ghosts, even that still works in regards to Wally, as heā€™s presumed dead. Or maybe, he was jumped through time and somehow ended up in the 31st century (w/ the Legion of Super-Heroes).Ā 
Maybe Iā€™m wrong, but it just seems very likely Wally will be returning.
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And now weā€™re finally done.Ā 
As Iā€™ve mentioned before, this is just my own speculation and Iā€™m sure Iā€™ve missed several characters. Also, I obviously donā€™t think all of these characters will be introduced in Season 4, but to me they all have somewhat of a chance.Ā 
And yeah...thatā€™s it.Ā 
I hope you enjoyed this extremely long list of characters who I think could be introduced in Season 4 of Young Justice.Ā 
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Ten Talents You Can Spot in a Chart
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Where do extraordinary qualities come from? What goes into the chart of a world-class beauty, a groundbreaking artist, a celebrity, or a billionaire? These people obviously have something special . . . and maybe you do too. In the following sections, I reveal the astrological secrets behind great gifts.
Artistic Ability
Every sign has its complement of artists. But the all-time greats ā€” geniuses like Leonardo da Vinci and Pablo Picasso ā€” belong to a category all their own. Here are some indicators of artistic talent:
~By sign: Taurus, Libra, and Leo sustain artistic talent. Look for the Sun, Moon, Ascendant, Midheaven, or Venus in those signs.
~By planet: A prominent Venus and Neptune quicken the aesthetic sense and the imagination.
~By house: An active fifth house accentuates your need to be creative.
Remember
A planet is prominent when itā€™s within 8Ā° of your Ascendant or Midheaven; when it occupies an angle (that is, itā€™s in the first, fourth, seventh, or tenth house of your chart); or when it makes close aspects to other planets.
A house is active either when it holds one or more planets or when its ruler is in a prominent position.
Athletic Prowess
Mighty Mars, the planet of aggression, figures strongly in the charts of athletes, who are statistically more likely than nonathletes to have Mars within striking distance of either the Midheaven or the Ascendant. (The specific areas near the Midheaven are the ninth house and first ten degrees of the tenth. The sensitive areas near the Ascendant are the twelfth house and the first ten degrees of the first house.) You see these positions in the charts of Muhammad Ali and Tiger Woods, both Capricorns. Ali has a tenacious Mars in Taurus conjunct the Midheaven. Tiger has a similar setup, with an impatient Mars in Gemini conjunct his Midheaven.
Mars can also be prominent for other reasons. For instance, I donā€™t know whether Lance Armstrong has an angular Mars. Angularity depends on birth time, and I donā€™t have that information about him. I do know this: His Mars in Aquarius aspects all but one of his other planets, making it very active indeed.
Mars can also dominate a chart in the opposite situation: When it makes no aspects whatsoever. Such a solitary planet, unhampered by other planets with competing agendas, operates without interference and can consequently be the strongest influence in a chart. I donā€™t want to suggest that Mars is the only planet that affects athletic ability. A well-placed Sun gives vitality. Mercury lends quickness. Jupiter, Uranus, and Pluto confer power. Athleticism, like other talents, is an amalgamation of many factors.
Finally, although gifted athletes are born under every sign of the zodiac, fire and earth signs are slightly more common among them than air and water. Athletes, like artists, benefit from a touch of Leo ā€” not because it advances athletic ability (Leos, I have noticed, can be amazingly klutzy) but because it stimulates the love of performance. And that is definitely part of the game.
Beauty (Or the Power of Attraction)
If Mars promotes athletic ability, Venus amplifies beauty, particularly when it is:
~Conjunct the Ascendant, the Sun, the Moon, the Midheaven, or the ruler of the Ascendant.
~In the first or tenth house.
~In Taurus or Libra, the signs it rules.
Brooke Shields, for instance, was a recognized beauty even as an infant, when her modeling career began. Her Venus sits at the top of her chart, conjoining her Midheaven. Angelina Jolie, whose very name advertises her prettiness, has Venus closely conjunct her Ascendant.
Remember
Not everyone with a prominent Venus boasts a gorgeous face. What they do have is even more valuable: the power of attraction. An example is former President Bill Clinton. Heā€™s a Leo (of course) with Venus in the first house in sociable Libra, the sign it rules. His Venus makes four conjunctions and two sextiles. So he easily attracts admirers. Hillary Rodham Clinton, on the other hand, has Venus in Scorpio, the sign of its detriment. With Venus conjunct her ruling planet (Mercury), she can be charming. But her Venus squares Saturn, Pluto, and Mars and makes an irritating (135Ā°) angle to the Moon and Ascendant. Not surprisingly, as a public personality, she has to work harder to make her case.
Celebrity Appeal
Known for his silk-screened portraits and provocative paintings of Campbellā€™s soup cans (and electric chairs), Andy Warhol is also remembered for his prescient statement, ā€œIn the future, everyone will be famous for 15 minutes.ā€ Well, that was easy for him to say. He had all the ingredients that celebrity appeal requires:
~Planets conjunct the Midheaven and/or in the tenth house
~Planets conjunct the Ascendant and/or in the first house
~A touch of Leo
Specifically, he had Jupiter (and Chiron) conjunct the Midheaven, Mars in the tenth house, the Sun closely conjunct the Ascendant, and two planets ā€” Venus and Neptune, the planets of art ā€” in the first house. Plus, he had four planets and the Ascendant in Leo. Fame was his birthright.
Why is Paris Hilton a celebrity? I donā€™t think itā€™s that sex video. Nor is it her wealth (although her second house of money is loaded). Itā€™s something else: She has the astrological fingerprint for fame. Planets conjunct the Midheaven? Sheā€™s got two of them, including Jupiter, her ruling planet. Plus, Pluto is in the tenth house. Planets conjunct the Ascendant? Glamorous Neptune is right there. And, sure enough, sheā€™s got some Leo going on: the Moon and the North Node in the eighth house of sex and other peopleā€™s money. Her fame is no accident.
Healing Hands
Doctors, nurses, acupuncturists, kind-hearted dentists, and others with the desire to heal share certain astrological characteristics:
~By sign: Cancer, Scorpio, and Pisces, the water signs, promote empathy. Virgo encourages an intellectual curiosity about health and healing techniques. Aquarius heightens humanitarian concern.
~By planet: Research has shown that doctors often have Saturn conjunct or opposite the Ascendant or Midheaven. Pluto, the planet of transformation, and Mars also figure heavily in the charts of healers.
~By house: The most crucial placements related to health are the sixth house of health and service; the eighth house of surgery, research, death, and rebirth; and the twelfth house of secrets and hospitals.
Remember
A house is powerful if it holds one or more planets, but even an empty house can be vital. If the ruler of that house is conjunct the Sun, Moon, Ascendant, or Midheaven, the matters of that house gain importance.
Business Savvy
How are Fortune 500 CEOs different from you and me (other than the fact that they fly around in private jets)? Hereā€™s how to spot executive ability:
~By sign: Taurus, Virgo, and Capricorn are the preeminent signs of business. Equally important is Scorpio, the sign of power politics, covert operations, and self-control. In business, as in other areas, you can also expect to see a little Leo. Thatā€™s because Leos long to be on top, and theyā€™ll happily put in hours ā€” make that years ā€” of overtime to achieve that noble goal.
~By planet: Saturn, well-situated by sign, house, and aspect, grants organizational ability; Mercury provides skill in communication; and Mars fuels the competitive drive.
~By house: Look for planets in the tenth house of reputation, the sixth house of work, the second house of money, and the eighth house of investment. Those houses support executive ability. Also, planets in the first house can bestow considerable charisma, which is often the defining trait of a successful CEO.
Making Money
These are the traditional markers that point to the ability to amass money and material goods, whether through your own efforts or through sheer good luck:
~Planets in the second and eighth houses.
~Powerful, well-aspected planets ruling the second and eighth houses.
~A well-placed Jupiter. If youā€™re lucky, it will connect with the second and eighth houses.
Psychic Ability
Whether you call it extrasensory perception, clairvoyance, a sixth sense, or plain old intuition, psychic ability isnā€™t as rare as you might think. Hereā€™s how to find it:
~By sign: Pisces, Scorpio, and Cancer bolster psychic ability. Sagittarius can also foster a tendency in that direction.
~By planet: Neptune and the Moon keep the channels of reception open (especially when theyā€™re conjunct). A prominent Uranus can bring flashes of insight and understanding. Pluto also boosts perception, especially if it aspects the Sun, Moon, Mercury, or the Ascendant. Iā€™m not sure itā€™s actually psychic, but if your powers of observation are acute, no one can tell the difference.
~By house: The twelfth, eighth, and fourth houses carry the most weight.
Becoming an Astrologer
Becoming a skilled astrologer has nothing to do with psychic ability. Astrology is an accumulated body of knowledge ā€” not the mystic ability to intercept messages from the spirit world. Anyone can learn it. But youā€™re more likely to be interested if you have some of the following in your chart:
~A prominent Uranus.
~Activity in Aquarius and/or an active eleventh house. When I began studying astrology, I heard that two specific degrees often showed up in astrologersā€™ charts: 25Ā° Aquarius and 25Ā° Leo. Iā€™m not sure I believe that.
~Activity in Scorpio and/or the eighth house. Scorpio is subtle and incisive. It feels at home with contradictions and hidden motivations, and it loves to ferret out a mystery ā€” and thatā€™s what astrology is all about.
Writing
Itā€™s astonishing how many people fantasize about writing. Hereā€™s what it takes to be a success:
~By sign: Great writers are born under every sign of the zodiac, but Gemini is especially haunted by the urge to write. Having the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Ascendant, or Midheaven in the sign of the Twins encourages writing ability.
~By planet: Becoming a successful writer requires a robust Mercury. Mercury is strong if it rules the Ascendant or Midheaven, if itā€™s in Gemini or Virgo, if it makes close aspects to other planets, and if itā€™s in the third, sixth, ninth, or tenth houses. Donā€™t fret if your Mercury is retrograde. That placement is so common among the authors I admire that Iā€™ve started to wonder whether itā€™s actually an advantage.
Saturn, the planet of self-discipline, is essential. Imaginative Neptune can be pivotal, especially in writing poetry, fiction, and song lyrics.
The Moon is arguably the most important planet, as the researcher Michel Gauquelin discovered. He found that creative writers are more likely than nonwriters to have the Moon in one of the so-called zones of power: either overhead (that is, in the ninth house or conjunct the Midheaven in the tenth) or rising (in the first house conjunct the Ascendant or in the twelfth house of secrets and solitude).
~By house: Look for activity in the third house of communication, the ninth house of publication, and the fifth house of creativity.
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narastories Ā· 4 years ago
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Happy 291st Birthday, Lord John Grey! - A Natal Chart Reading for our dearest English Lord
This is very different from what I usually share here. By now you are all aware that we are celebrating the 291st birthday of Lord John Grey of Outlander.
For this occasion I took it upon myself to do a natal chart reading for him.
This is astrology applied to a fictional character, you have been warned. Continue at your own discretion.
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Disclaimers:
I am not an astrologer
This is made in the spirit of appreciation of this character and his story. The purpose of this is pure fun on my part and hopefully to entertain some of you as well. Plus, maybe to provide some character-study-style insight or inspiration.
The character of Lord John Grey belongs to Diana Gabaldon - duhĀ 
Johnā€™s birth date is canon. The time has been arbitrarily chosen by me. Yes, it is important, because there are a lot of moving parts to a natal chart. I have literally cycled through the day by the hour, compared charts and decided on the one that Iā€™ve found most fitting to his character. Which, is by the way best practice, when you do not know your or someone elseā€™s exact birth time, but are somewhat familiar with their character. And considering that even if our dearest Lord John were an actual historical figure, Iā€™m pretty sure we wouldnā€™t have his exact birth time from 1729, so I donā€™t feel bad about my process.
The examples I may give here are both from the books and the show, but nothing too specific that would be considered spoiler.
Lastly, this is all my interpretation both about the astrological meanings and of his character. Feel free to disagree with me. Politely, if you please.
So, in good Outlander time-travelling fashion letā€™s transport ourselves back to the day Lord John Grey was born and look up to the sky to see what it has to tell us.
Sun in Gemini
Lord John is a Gemini, which makes him clever and witty. He takes pride in his intellect and uses it to reach his goals. He is extremely adaptable, and instantly finds his footing in the most various settings, whether thatā€™s Londonā€™s high society, a remote village in Scotland, or a two week fishing trip in the wilderness of the Colonies.
As someone born under the sign of the Twins there is a natural duality to his personality, that we can observe many times. He is capable of great tenderness, yet he can also be extremely fierce. Brutal is perhaps not the right word, but as much as he is a gentleman, we do see him engaged in physical fight, where he is by no means unskilled. You canā€™t say itā€™s always self-defense either.
He often has an internal conflict between heart and mind, between duty and emotion.
Geminis make good actors, and Lord John is exceptional in that too. He has to be as a gay man in the 18th century, which creates another duality between the life heā€™s supposed to live as a solider and as a Lord, a respected member of high-society and all the things he craves but has to hide.
As a Gemini he is a great communicator. Good with people, small talk comes easy for him, but engaging in a deep intellectual conversation is what really fires him up (Shakespear, anyone? :P) He is pleasant to be around and has a good sense of humour. His skills are diverse and he makes friends easily as he moves from one adventure to the other.
Geminis are prone to restlessness, which Lord John demonstrates beautifully by fidgeting with every little knick-knack that accidentally lands between his well-manicured hands. (Why does he stash them away in his pockets? Iā€™m afraid astrology has no answer for his accidental kleptomania.)
His Sun is in the Ninth House of mental and physical explorations. Long journeys of the mind and the body are prominent in his life and essential to his personality. He speaks multiple languages and uses them to express himself on a very personal and natural level - aka swearing in the language most appropriate to the level of shit heā€™s gotten himself into this time.
Libra Rising
His rising sign is Libra, which sheds light on how he presents himself and what he wants to be known for. People with Libra Ascendant have natural grace and a good style. Lord John has all of that and finds himself often in the spotlight for it. He doesnā€™t have to struggle to be successful, but more than anything he wants to be known as a kind and loving person, and I would argue he succeeds in that.
His rising sign is important, because his natal chart is ruled by Venus, the planet of love and beauty. He has a romantic nature, and has the ability to connect with anyone, anywhere at any given time.
Libra rising people are said to be very attractive and compatible with almost anyone and as we say around here Lord John Grey would have chemistry with a lamppost.
This doesnā€™t just extend to romantic partners, although he is the happiest when in a romantic relationship. He puts others at ease and is genuinely likeable.
He feels obligated to balance the situations he finds himself in, therefore he is a natural diplomat always striving to harmonize and negotiate. It also makes him a good listener.
He has a great sense of fairness and injustice angers him. He is social, has a generally positive outlook on life and is inspired by nature and art.
Moon in Aquarius
The moon sign represents the hidden side of someoneā€™s personality, their emotions, their needs. It is also jokingly referred to as the ā€œdrunk youā€, so letā€™s see who Lord John is after a few glasses of good Scottish whiskey.
At first glance there is nothing scandalous here, Aquarius is the most favorable sign for the Moon to be in. This gives him sensitivity and good perception. He tries to understand othersā€™ perspective, and is rather idealistic.
However, people with the Moon in Aquarius are prone to sudden outbursts. How many times does he put his foot in his mouth and gets punched or called out to a duel for it? Yeahā€¦
He can also push otherā€™s over the edge emotionally, exactly because he is so perceptive, which actually does happen when he is drunk. This is not out of malice, but either out of pure authenticity or just because he knows it will get the other person out of a place of stagnation.
He hides a rebellious, progressive and unconventional soul under that well-tailored waistcoat of his and it does come out sometimes.
Ideally he needs to have a healthy outlet for this, a partner who appreciates his sometimes idiosyncratic nature and occasional eccentricities. In turn he won't flinch in the midst of the most challenging situations, because heā€™s not afraid of chaos.
He wants to find solutions that work for everyone and can neglect his own needs in the process.
If that wasnā€™t enough air for you, he also has a-
Grand Fucking Trine in the air signs
Which is a pretty big deal. (Moon in Aquarius - Pluto in Libra - Neptune and Mars in Gemini)
These influences all help and strengthen each other. He has a brilliant mind, his Intellect is exceptional, he has a deep concern for law and duty, and an unusually sharp sixth sense of unearthing shocking revelations.
He has a magnetic personality, great ability to express himself, and therefore leaves a lasting impression on others. He is able to inspire and lead others and his need for harmony and cooperation makes him a great negotiator.
Lots and lots of air influence, which also means that in the battle of the mind and the heart unfortunately the mind wins and he lets his heart break instead.
Letā€™s get back to Venus and love for a sec.
With this much air in the chart for him everything starts in the mind. He experiences desire in the mind first. He must have a great intellectual connection with someone, before their relationship could blossom into a romance (Venus in Gemini). His entry point to sex is also through words (Mars in Gemini). Think about all the witty foreplay and low-key dirty talk in the LJG books. And also, khm chess games...
Where does that occasional intensity and dominance come from, you ask?
Well, he does have Uranus in Scorpio (semisquare Venus in Gemini, semisquare his Sun in Gemini) which would explain why he is not always displaying the lighthearted, fun, fleeting ways of a Venus-in-Gemini lover. He does have a lot of sexual partners. But then weā€™ve already established that he would have chemistry with a lamppost.
His chart is heavy on the 9th and 10th houses of long distance travel, career and public standing, and these are probably the most important aspects of his life. He is a comparatively lucky person, with a lively social life, charming personality and strong morality (Jupiter in Cancer).
His great trauma lies in what squares Neptune and Mars in the 9th house. There is an opposition between his sexuality and dreams, and what ideas he is allowed to express publicly. He is sensitive to what others think (Mercury in Cancer), picks up signals very well and is therefore acutely aware of what he can and cannot say.
Here lies the greatest disappointment and loss in his life (Saturn in Pisces). He chooses to make personal sacrifices for the benefit of others.
His Chiron is in the 7th house of partnership and marriage, which I also find interesting. This minor planet getā€™s called the Wounded Healer. It makes me think about what Claire and Jamie says about wounds and Lord John. And it also makes me think about his marriage.
Well, if that doesnā€™t make for an interesting personality, I donā€™t know what does. I hope this has been at least half as fun to read as it was to write. Let me know what you think.
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astro-syd Ā· 4 years ago
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Jungkook & Taehyung Synastry Reading - Astrology
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Jungkookā€™s Chiron conjunct Taehyungā€™s North Node in Libra
This is a compelling aspect between the two of them. Thereā€™s a big theme of responsibility in their relationship. As lighthearted and accepting as they can be of each other, they also have a very intense connection that could easily hurt each other if they arenā€™t careful. Chiron deals with your biggest soul wounds and trauma, and the North Node represents where youā€™re going and what youā€™re meant to learn and experience in life (south node is your past and where you came from).Ā 
This could be a relationship in which Jungkook is meant to experience the healing of all of these core wounds and traumas THROUGH Taehyung. It could also mean that Taehyung continually manages to touch on these core wounds of Jungkookā€™s and bring up a lot of old pains, probably completely unintentionally.Ā 
Given that this aspect is taking place in Libra (a very loving and non-aggressive sign), which is also Jungkookā€™s first house, I think this aspect could be playing off of Jungkookā€™s shyness and his fear of showing up in the world as his true self. Thereā€™s a lot of identity issues with Chiron in the 1st, and itā€™s very likely that Taehyungā€™s north node in the 11th (a humanitarian house that touches on serving others) shows a sort of connection thatā€™s meant to be healing both to Jungkook, and mutually through the bandā€™s connection. Iā€™m curious to see if more Chiron aspects come up in further synastry readings amongst them all.Ā 
That said, even if their relationship was a little painful and frightening at first, it seems that theyā€™ve really turned these aspects into deeply healing ones that are mutually beneficial over the years. We can see how close theyā€™ve gotten simply in the ways that they interact with each other, so itā€™s hard for me to even consider aspects in which they could possibly be provoking deep childhood wounds in each other. I imagine this couldā€™ve been an initial challenge upon meeting and living together or might sometimes cause them a problem or two under harsh transits, but typically takes on a more healing form. Their whole vibe together has always seemed too loving and accepting to make such an aspect into a real challenge of any kind.
Jungkookā€™s Venus conjunct Taehyungā€™s North Node in Libra
Thereā€™s lots of aspects to Taeā€™s NN in their synastry chart??
Often with this placement, the NN person (Tae) feels that the Venus person (Kook) has something about them (either in regards to their personality, life experience, etc) that theyā€™re meant to experience in this lifetime. Since weā€™re talking about a Venus conjunction which rules art and beauty, I think Jungkook would really be drawn to experiencing Taehyungā€™s art and creativity (likely for his own inspiration).Ā 
Given that they have many other positive aspects, I would think that Taehyung is willing to indulge Jungkook by sharing his creativity and ideas with him and will help to guide Jungkook into the person and artist he's becoming.
Your south node shows your past, where you came from, the skills and traits you were born with and that were encouraged by your family growing up. The north node shows your destiny, where youā€™re going, and who youā€™re meant to become. It usually involves a fairly strong element of fear and resistance for you, because itā€™s opposite your ā€œcomfortableā€ south node traits. The north node pushes you out of your comfort zone and will ultimately lead you to feel most fulfilled, but some people can experience strong resistance toward this, causing the energies in your chart to sort of ā€œforceā€ you into it in order to create balance between this axis.
That said, most younger people are very uncomfortable with fulfilling their north node and sort of have to grow into it as they get older. Both Tae and Kook were very young when BTS debuted, which makes me think that this aspect may have given them more trouble when they were younger.
The influence of Jungkookā€™s Venus would both inspire Taehyung and make him uncomfortable. Their friendship is strongly attractive, even addictive, but Taehyung may be more shy about adopting these Venusian traits that Kook brings to the relationship, and therefore his presence in these matters could intimidate Taehyung and make him uncomfortable. It seems that Taehyungā€™s creativity as an artist and a musician has had to be slowly drawn out of him over the years with BTS. Rushing him into self-expression too quickly would scare him and cause him to close off even more, especially in his younger years, so there may have been some ā€œgrowing painsā€ between the two boys as they both learned how to fill their rightful places (in terms of their role creatively and professionally) within the band.
Remember that they also have a Venus/Jupiter conjunction, which are the two strongest benefics in astrology. Regardless of any road bumps with this aspect in their younger years, itā€™s likely that Taehyung now sees Jungkook as a safe haven. He feels like he can trust Kook to accept him and the things he creates without question. When seen in a long-term relationship, this aspect could show that Jungkook was destined to draw this out of him and give him a safe space to express himself however he chooses to do so.
Jungkookā€™s Venus conjunct Taehyungā€™s Chiron in Libra
This aspect is another indicator of a strong attractive force between them. Yes, Chiron deals with wounding, but itā€™s often attractive in synastry because we tend to search for the people who can help heal our wounds. If this were in aspect with a malefic planet I would think otherwise, but Venus is a benefic and itā€™s in its rulership in gentle and loving Libra, so I definitely it takes on a healing form between them rather than something destructive.
Jungkookā€™s Venus will soothe a lot of Taehyungā€™s old wounds (much like I mentioned in the last aspect). However, it may have taken them a while to get to this point. As I mentioned with the Venus/North Node aspect, itā€™s possible that early on in their relationship, these two may have found themselves bumping upon a lot of old wounds and traumas in each other. Any early fights and disagreements wouldā€™ve resulted because of this. As deep as their bond is when given time to mature, it probably took them a while to learn to navigate this bond and how these trauma aspects are woven between them in order to reach the level of healing and comfortability that they have now.
Taehyungā€™s Chiron does indeed have some pretty harsh aspects in his natal chart, showing that these themes of pain and the stories around his wounds are likely very prominent in his mind and memories. People with strong Chiron aspects tend to be in a constant search for ways to heal or escape their pain. Itā€™s very likely that Jungkook, even just by means of his demeanor and personality alone, is very deeply healing to Taehyung.Ā 
I also want to mention that one of Taehyungā€™s chiron aspects deals with wounds around simply existing within a body. His soul very much struggles to be anchored down in this physical world (and he has multiple placements that show as much- Iā€™ll get into this more when I do his natal reading), but he also has incredible powers to be a healer himself if he so chooses. I think both he and Jungkook tend to mirror similar trauma patterns in each other, even just in their insecurities, and through this bond that they share, are by nature very healing presences in each othersā€™ lives.
Theyā€™ve both got Chiron and one of the angles in Jungkookā€™s 1st house (Taeā€™s 11th) plus Taeā€™s NN and Kookā€™s Venus. So thereā€™s a lot wrapped up here in common themes of pain and wounding, expressing it through art and each other, their destinies, healing and acceptance.
Itā€™s also notable that many artists and musicians have this placement in their natal charts, and here we see it between two artists of a group. Chiron/Venus tends to show an appreciation of the beauty in human suffering. It makes sense that a lot of their music deals with themes of struggle and overcoming the odds.
Jungkookā€™s Saturn opposite Taehyungā€™s North Node in Aries & Libra
Yeesh, more Saturn, more binding aspects between them.
These two definitely have one hell of a karmic link to each other
Saturn in harsh aspect with a North Node can cause the NN person (Tae) to feel held back from his life purpose and mission due to Jungkookā€™s restrictive Saturn. Given that Taeā€™s North Node is near his Midheaven at the top of his chart, Tae might even feel that Jungkook keeps him from grabbing the spotlight, or from showing up as the true artist that he really is. Maybe early on in their career, Tae couldā€™ve felt like Jungkook outshone him a lot. Theyā€™re close in age, but Jungkook has long been known as the ā€œgoldenā€ boy of the group, and Tae mightā€™ve spent some time feeling like he was standing in Kookā€™s shadow.
This aspect usually causes a romantic couple to be strongly drawn together, but eventually will reach the point in which they feel unfulfilled and held back by the relationship and will separate. Iā€™ve said before that I donā€™t think itā€™s possible for these two to fully separate in this lifetime, and I think Saturn here is really just functioning more as a means of long-term loyalty and commitment and a responsibility to their job, rather than as a force to separate them. It just simply doesnā€™t add up with their other aspects.
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astrologysvt Ā· 5 years ago
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Seungcheol Full Natal Chart Reading
for the few memberā€™s we have vague birth times for iā€™ll be doing FULL natal chart readings. PLEASE keep in mind that the birth times given were rather vague, and so i took some liberty on my end to decide on exact times in order to pinpoint likely risings and so forth. not only that, but with a full chart there is a lot more we can delve into but the concepts discussed also get more vast and more abstract. There is a lot more interpretation being done in these readings as opposed to my past readings which are more observation based. so please take everything i say in these readings with a grain of salt!Ā 
so cheol answered in a fan sign slot for @/scoups_bf on twitter and said that he was born around 9amĀ 
and the reason iā€™m not taking 9 oā€™clock literally and inputting 9:00 am EXACTY when looking up his chart is cuz ALL of the members we have birth times for have just given us approximations
and i donā€™t think cheol is much different.Ā 
and honestly, i wouldnā€™t make such a hoopla about it if 9 oā€™clock wasnā€™t putting him just at the cusp between being a virgo rising and a libra rising.Ā 
and so iā€™ve personally taken the liberty and decided to read his chart as though he was born any time after 9:25 am which would make him a libra rising.Ā 
for more specific reasoning, check out an ask i answered addressing my thoughtsĀ on the matter.
with that being said, there is still A LOT we can take away just knowing that he was born generally around 9amĀ 
and so even though we can dispute whether or not he is a virgo or a libra rising as much as we want
a majority of this reading is actually going to rely more so on the placements of his planets within the houses.Ā 
and regardless of if he was born at 9am on the dot, or 9:59am ā€” his planets and their respective houses do not change much.Ā 
the only planets that are affected are his moon and jupiter which i do not focus on a whole bunch in this reading!Ā 
SO WITH THAT HUGE DISCLAIMER OUT OF THE WAYĀ 
you can trust that this reading is still going to apply to him and his chart REGARDLESS of his risingĀ 
(tho, again, iā€™m reading his chart as though heā€™s a libra rising).Ā 
so first off, we can take a look at his chart shape.Ā 
all of his planets are distributed within a pretty confined space in his chart, leaving around 4 houses empty (7th-10th houses)Ā 
you then have the rest of the planets taking up around two thirds of the chart and are forming an orderly line.Ā 
this is called a locomotive shape (ehehe thank you anon for helping me figure out his chart shape).Ā 
and whatā€™s really cool is that once you start getting into chart shapes, the nature of the distribution of the planets within someoneā€™s chart can actually give the native influences that manifest in ways that are very similar to signs unlike the ones in their chart.Ā 
for example, a locomotive is a very ambitious and relentless placement that can have a very aries-like feel.Ā 
and so although seungcheolā€™s only aries influence is his libra mars in the 1st (ariesā€™ house), heā€™s going to actually have a very aries-like nature in how he goes about his goals and ambitions where heā€™s very unapologetic and attention-grabbing.Ā 
there is a lot of energy, passion, and strength-of-will about him because of this chart shape.
but whatā€™s also interesting about this chart shape, is the added emphasis it places on the leading planet of the locomotive.Ā 
the leading planet is the front of the locomotive as if the planets are traveling in a clockwise direction just like (you guessed it) a train!!! šŸš‚šŸ¤Æ
for cheol, that means that venus in the 11th house is the leading planet.
this can make his libra influence a lot more prominent than initially expected, as well as the impact of the 11th house a lot grander.Ā 
and so there are three things that a locomotive shape can indicate.Ā 
one of them being aĀ ā€œgoalā€ or a direction in life as indicated by the leading planet and the house it lands in.Ā 
seungcheol has the planet of harmony, romance, art, and comfort in the 11th house which is the house that rules friendship, community, greater call-to-action, and humanitarianism.Ā 
this truly adds a huge emphasis on people for cheol.Ā 
you can trust that his goals center around rallying people, working towards a greater cause, and building community
and heā€™s going to go about this in a very venus-like fashion.Ā 
so having that environment where heā€™s creating, playing, and communicating with others is very important to him.Ā 
having that excitement in creation and collaboration is something that drives him and how he hopes to encourage others
and with this 11th house association, this hints towards a desire to reach wider audiences, make bold statements, and enact positive, maybe even revolutionary change.Ā 
another thing a locomotive shape can indicate is the struggles one may have, as well as ā€œnecessary evilsā€ they need to take into account in order to achieve said goalsĀ 
and thatā€™s indicated by the final planet in the locomotive.Ā 
thatā€™d make it cheolā€™s saturn in the 6th house.Ā 
and so youā€™re taking the planet of discipline, restriction, and ambition and putting it in the house associated with work, health, and lifestyle.Ā 
this placement is both very positive and potentially difficult in a few different ways.
youā€™re taking saturnā€™s sense of discipline and applying it to work
and this is what makes seungcheol not just such a hard worker but also re-emphasizes the responsibility he already feels thanks to his capricorn moon.Ā 
within the context of his locomotive, on the other hand, it can potentially be a very difficult placement.Ā 
his sense of purpose and responsibility runs the risk of being all consuming.Ā 
especially when considering that the 6th house deals with lifestyle and the day-to-day.Ā 
itā€™s a mundane area of our lives, but itā€™s routine and constant which can make this weight of responsibility rather omnipresent and relentless.Ā 
and with the association of health, this placement can often times mean that his focus in work can potentially be at the expense of his health.Ā 
he may struggle to find a balance between meeting expectations and taking care of himself as heā€™s prone to getting so absorbed in work he forgets to do personal check-ins.
not to mention, wherever saturn lands will bring a very hypercritical mindset where he may struggle to ever feel satisfied with himself and his work.Ā 
whatā€™s also of note with having saturn at the end of his locomotive, is the fact that venus is at the very front of it.Ā 
the planet of art and play is being weighed down by the planet of responsibility and structure.Ā 
his desire to do as his heart pleases is at odds with his sense of obligation.Ā 
this further adds to this mindset he may already have with his cap moon where he struggles to give himself some slack, even though the trajectory of his life is very much aimed at being that free and creatively-minded person.
and this adds to this sense ofĀ ā€œnecessary evilā€ that i mentioned before.Ā 
in order to play, he must work.Ā 
but also, it can create a mindset that in order to deserve the company he keeps, he must be successful.Ā 
then the final thing to take into account with a locomotive is the empty houses.Ā 
the empty houses emphasize theĀ ā€œmissingā€ truth that he is attempting to address in terms of the rest of his locomotive.Ā 
i always find this part of interpreting a locomotive the hardest as itā€™s pretty vague and can manifest in so many different ways.
it can serve as a form of motivation may that be through fears or past experiences.Ā 
or maybe a sense of fascination or desire to discover/uncover what remains ambiguous in his life
but we can break it down in a few different ways.Ā Ā 
these planets reference adulthood in terms of life stages, and so itā€™s more than likely that whatever this is referencing to in his life hasnā€™t happened yet or heā€™s simply working towards it.Ā 
they also hint towards added value put towards partnership, marriage, travel, philosophy, career, and public image.Ā 
there is also the quadrants to take into account, and itā€™s primarily his 3rd quadrant that remains empty.Ā 
the 3rd quadrant deals with his sense of social harmony and identity.Ā 
it deals with the way he approaches lifelong commitments, the people he spends time with, the people he attracts, and the places he travels.Ā 
itā€™s a social section of the chart, but one thats associated with great commitment and contract.Ā 
and there are a bunch of different ways of interpreting the empty section of his chart
but considering how socially inclined his chart is from his libra rising, his leo placements, to his entire 11th house ā€” i think the interpretation that makes the most sense is in addressing the social aspect of the 3rd quadrant
and i do not want to brush aside his empty 10th house even though it is technically not a part of the 3rd quadrant.Ā 
this house is especially important to consider when taking into account the fact that the 10th house is capricorn/saturnā€™s house, along with the knowledge of the prominence of saturn in his locomotive.Ā 
the empty 10th house can indicate he has a strong desire to make a name for himself
and with the 10th house also being in cancer, it can mean he wants to establish himself as someone people can rely on and someone who can take care of others.Ā 
someone who can be a source of safety and comfort
and then you have the 3rd quadrant which deals with marriage and interpersonal style/commitment
and so that can mean that whatā€™s driving his locomotive is his desire for stability and lifelong partnership.Ā 
these influences can also point towards a potential fear of being lonely, and of not having someone he can share his life with
maybe a fear of missing out on those experiences, or of not having this area of his life to settle into.Ā 
itā€™s kind of like his chart is nesting, and so obviously he wants to share that nestĀ Ā 
but moving on
we can now take everything iā€™ve just mapped out and deduce and observe a few things about him.Ā 
i think that career is certainly a huge pillar for him and something he does not take lightlyĀ 
but in the big picture of his chart, his career is simply a supporting figure.Ā 
having saturn in the 6th house at the end of his locomotive gives this false impression that career and work are INCREDIBLY important to him.Ā 
and this is because of that nervousness that exists inside of him where saturn insists on constantly questioning, reassessing, and attending to his work.Ā 
it can even feel as though there is something there that needs to be proven, or earned for him
and that is further emphasized because that speaks directly to his leo and capricorn placements that place such a huge emphasis on success and ambition.
these placements want and need something to work towards, and they both crave accolade and status.Ā 
it is easy for him to focus on work, to focus on achievements, and to use said achievements as a point of reference for his own self-worth
it may even feel like a part of his identity.Ā 
and all of these influences are so loud and imposing that they kind of tune out his more softer venus thatā€™s seeking this much less tangible goal through art, expression, and companionship.
his chart gives me a sense that his work is certainly there and itā€™s an important factor to consider, but itā€™s not the focal point.
his direction is clearly pointing towards community, relationships, and social influence.
at the end of the day, whatā€™s of value to him is his own ability to bring people together and serve a greater purpose towards the people he cares about.Ā 
and with venus at the helm of this, heā€™s going to achieve this through his ability to communicate and care for others and will do so in a very sincere, charming, and authentic manner.Ā 
whats interesting too is that you have venus which is a rather gently expressed planet, but at the front of a locomotive and in the 11th house which is a pretty bold and broadly applied house ā€” this kind of creates a very interesting duality in how he goes about his ambitions.Ā 
he wants to bring about change, do things his own way, maybe even attempt to entirely change the game.Ā 
but itā€™ll be within the extent his art and his ability to make personal connections can go.Ā 
he doesnā€™t have an enterprising, theĀ ā€œends justify the meansā€ attitude.Ā 
instead, he wants to accomplish what he can with the most integrity and meaning possible
but after considering all of this, everything heā€™s said about his own personal goals to be able to stay with svt together forever take on a more significant meaning.Ā 
i think when he was younger, he may have put a stronger emphasis on proving himself and leading his group towards success.
but overtime, i think his goals have molded into being something thatā€™s much more along the lines of seeing his career as a means of ensuring he can remain with his members as long as possible.Ā 
not only that, but a tool that allows him to provide and support them.
the added bonus that comes with his career as it is now, is that heā€™s able to stay near the people he cares about while also connecting with people on a greater scale and encouraging good will.Ā 
this is one of the reasons heā€™s so sincere in how he communicates with fans, and i think it comes from a very earnest place because he genuinely wants to connect and soothe others.Ā 
if he can be someone they can rely on, heā€™s more than happy to take on that responsibility.Ā 
but beyond his work as an idol ā€” with these empty houses dealing with marriage, partnership, and even parenthood through his cancer midheaven which is an EXTREMELY parental influence.
it wouldnā€™t be a surprise to me that, as he gets older, he realizes his main goal is to settle down, start a family, and to be a father.Ā 
again, this is another interpretation where his energies through saturn and the 6th house have told him he wants to make a name for himself, he wants to be successful, and he wants to be the best of the best.Ā 
but at the end of the day, thatā€™s not really where his chart is planning on landing him.Ā 
rather, itā€™s in being able to establish a home and share his life with someone.Ā 
achieving that sense of belonging through friends and family is the moment his chart is pointing towards being when he can finally put his feet up and be likeĀ ā€œthis is what i was doing this forā€Ā 
especially with that libra rising thatā€™s reaching out for that companionship and commitment.Ā 
and not to mention a moon in the 4th house that really emphasizes the importance of home and roots.Ā 
this is actually the first time iā€™ve even attempted to do a full chart reading for these guys, and iā€™m definitely still processing everything iā€™m noticing.
i definitely think itā€™s interesting to consider these placements knowing what we know about himĀ 
although that knowledge is not personally, not intimately, and only what weā€™re given permission to see out of respect for him and his privacy.Ā 
but we can obviously pin point at least a few ways these placements have manifested so far for him.Ā 
such as his career (obviously lol)
his own experience with his health (known vaguely by us, and referenced as a new personal goal of his to maintain)
and his own statement in valuing the members over the company.Ā 
i think this is where i reiterate again that everything i say in my readings and with astrology MUST be taken with a grain of salt.Ā 
at the end of the day, the details we actually have with regard to the members are merely breadcrumbs compared to how vast and detailed charts can go.Ā 
and so everything iā€™ve said is up for interpretation
and with readings like these i always encourage the person iā€™m doing a reading for to exercise their right to agree or disagree with anything i say.
and so i offer that to you guys as wellĀ 
iā€™m really just reading whatā€™s in his chart, putting things out there, and hopefully creating a cohesive story/interpretation that can be applied to him and reflected upon ā€” hopefully giving either perspective, validation, or ease (lol hypothetically if he were to ever see this reading).Ā 
but if i had to wrap things up, when i do readings of this type, i do tend to leave with maybe words of encouragement or feedback that i feel may be helpful.
and so if i were doing this reading personally for cheol, iā€™d really reiterate to him that his energy is always going to be directed and validated by his community and loved ones.Ā Ā 
career is great and itā€™s definitely important as it gives his chart direction and allows him to put that antsyĀ ā€œi need to do SOMETHINGā€ energy somewhere.Ā 
but at the end of the day, heā€™s going to find more traction and purpose by focusing his attention towards his relationships as his success is only as good as the company he keeps.
i wouldnā€™t be surprised if heā€™s had really rough moments where his saturn, cap, leo & 6th house placements have all lead him down this very tiring work path with the promise of feeling some kind of ā€œahaā€ moment at some point.Ā 
when in reality, his chart is seeking out something of a much different nature.Ā 
his vision shouldnā€™t be on the end goal, but rather his sense of togetherness.
making his focusĀ ā€œbe with svt foreverā€ was the right move in spirit, and will result in much more long term happiness.Ā 
his hard work is important and will pay off, but it wont be through awards and it wont be through titles.Ā 
itā€™ll be in feeling like heā€™s provided, and being able to look at the people around him and know theyā€™ve been taken care of and that heā€™s made a difference to them.Ā 
and also in knowing that he plays an important role to them.
at the end of the day, his chart is meant to play just as much as heā€™s driven to work.Ā 
but ultimately, his sense of play is what is leading him.Ā 
iā€™d implore on him to never make a career decision that compromises his ability to feel free, and to be creatively and socially enriched
and i do think this is something he knows.Ā 
with all the complications and confusion in his chart iā€™ve outlined thanks to his locomotive, we canā€™t forget the ā€œariesā€ nature of this chart shape.
with all of that conflict comes clarity.Ā 
once he understands and focuses on his ultimate goal and what gives him that satisfaction and purpose ā€” heā€™s going to barrel towards it with no hesitation, remorse, or caution.Ā 
he knows what he wants, he know who he ultimately answers to, and itā€™s equallyĀ ā€œhow do i get thereā€ as it is ā€œhow do i cut off all distractionsā€Ā 
which is certainly the right mindset for him, at least in terms of his chart and theĀ ā€œpathā€ itā€™s leading him towards as well as overcoming his charts own struggle in finding said clarity.Ā 
itā€™s definitelyĀ ā€œi know what i want and fuck all the restā€ with him, and iā€™d encourage that thinking in terms of maintaining and protecting what is important to him.Ā 
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shinneth Ā· 6 years ago
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What Myers-Briggs types do you think the main Trifecta characters would be?
Hmm. Well, I had a hard time settling one a single type for most of them, so I tried to find at least two for the six TrifectaĀ ā€œmainsā€ - Paul, Reggie, Brandon, Conway, Barry, and Maylene.
(REALLY stretching it calling Maylene aĀ ā€œmainā€, especially since Chapter 13 is where she peaked; once Arc II happens, sheā€™ll be in Out Of Focus territory for sureā€¦ buuuut sheā€™s made her mark and a lot of readers take notice to her, so I threw her in)
Interestingly, I had no one pegged as INFPĀ (Mediator/Idealist), which is where I fall in. Some characters fit half of it but I couldnā€™t justify the other half notĀ befitting them (Paul and Conway were the partial contenders - and Brandon to a lesser degreeā€¦ but Conwayā€™s too charismatic and sociable, while Paul and Brandon arenā€™t deep thinkers to the point where theyā€™re completelyĀ delusional like I am :P).
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Paul -Ā INTJ (The Mastermind) or ISTJ (The Inspector)
Safe to say if I had to pick one only, it would be INTJ. Definitely would sooner work alone than a group any day (and if Conway hadnā€™t been there for him like heā€™d been so much in Trifecta, this would likely still be the case for him - and Barry is more a result of Trifecta Paulā€™s character development). Much more comfortable doing things his own way and proving to the world he can handle himself. Even with Trifecta development, Paul still finds social activity a huge chore. Trifecta 21 has Paul go out of his way to be receptive to Conwayā€™s friendliness, and it does take a toll on him physically and mentally. Also a master strategist, as per canon, and questions everything. And god help him if Paul is unsure of anything.Ā Itā€™s why he hates being indecisive in Trifecta; he believes even a wrong choice or a bad idea is better than none at all. And knowing his legendary levels ofĀ ā€œpatienceā€, heā€™s definitely not going to wait all day to find the right path.
With ISTJā€¦ well, this was a Brandon contender, surprise surprise. Intimidating? Comes off that way. Serious? All the damn time.Ā Formal, properā€¦? Well, he DOES respect his elders, for the most part. If he thinks youā€™re shit, heā€™ll treat you like shit, but Paulā€™s not nearly as eager to start shit as he was in his Trifecta youth. You can definitely say, either in canon or Trifecta, Paulā€™s a strong worker who follows his own moral code. For all his controversial shit, Paul has never once cheated or tried to take the easy way out. Now, he sure as hell isnā€™t PATIENT, and he doesnā€™t really put much stock in going out of his way to upholding social or cultural responsibility (especially the former). But Paul is typically quiet and reserved; while heā€™s prone to anger, heā€™s fully capable of keeping calm when he needs to. Even Trifecta Paul can pull this off unless heā€™s just physically about to break down. Often misunderstood? Ohhhhhh, yeah.
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Reggie - ESFJ (The Provider) or ESTJ (The Supervisor)
ESFJ might actually be the lesser of the two here. Mostly because Reggie isnā€™t really an attention-seeker outside of his own family members. He doesnā€™t desire the spotlight; he just wants his daddy and lil bro to love and accept him! But Reggie IS an active young man, veryĀ social, way more thoughtful than he makes himself out to be, and totally IS the organizer for any family event that happens in the present-day and has been since his motherā€™s death. Heā€™s the guy that everybody loves. Itā€™s been a common theme in some AUs of his Trifecta persona where he ends up being one of the most popular kids in school with legions of girls whoā€™d drop everything to date him and he just never notices.Ā 
ESTJ covers him more uniformly. Reggie doesnā€™t want to be the star of the show, but he doesĀ want to help and offer advice to absolutely anyone who needs it. And he checks out on the listed traits:Ā honest, dedicated, dignified, and traditional. You could definitely see him as a role model (even if Paul doesnā€™t) and heā€™s a good fit for a leader role.Ā 
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Brandon - ENFP (The Champion) or ENTJ (The Commander)
One of Brandonā€™s defining traits (that mightā€™ve not been showcased in Trifecta yet since weā€™re not yet at the point where itā€™s mega-relevant) is that he will decide his own destiny and what path to take, damn what anyone else says. So thereā€™s what wins him the ENFP brand. His intuition is pretty top-notch; terminal disease aside, Brandon can totally read Paul like a book even though heā€™s spent the better part of Paulā€™s life operating from a great distance and not really being around for his kid. Heā€™s way more perceptive than most give him credit for, and though heā€™ll never admit it, Brandon doesĀ act on his feelings a lot. Even taking an overseas job shortly after his wife died while leaving his kids behind - he can say thatā€™s solely because it was the best way to make up for the income difference, but really, it doubled as his desire to just remove himself from everything of Andreaā€™s influence. He had a harder time coping with her death than heā€™ll ever care to admit. Plus, Brandonā€™s unprofessional abandoning of his post that resulted in his return to Sinnoh? Totally impulsive. He also wasted no time making a detour to Reggie when Brandon learned he was in the hospital, so there you go.Ā 
With ENTJ, this correlates with Brandonā€™s leadership skills as head of the Kanto Battle Frontier, as well as being the head of his own travelling trifecta with Byron and Palmer. Ambitious is putting it mildly for Brandon, honestly. And while he can be a slave to his feelings at times, Brandon is more known for acting with cold, hard logic. Heā€™s likened to Paul in Trifecta for a reason. Brandonā€™s all for challenging himself, not afraid to make the hard calls(as his sacrifice for Regigas proves), and hell no he cannot sit still.Ā 
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Conway - INTP (The Thinker) or ENTP (The Visionary)
Well, Conwayā€™s pretty damn easy to peg even if you didnā€™t take his Trifecta traits into account. INTP is Conwayā€™s most well-known traits in a nutshell: absorbs info like a sponge, heavy on the logical, objective side of perspectiveā€¦ he plans, he hypothesizes, he observes, he analyzes, he theorizes, and he can pick up on details most others will overlook. Like, literally everything INTP applies to Conway. Heā€™s the consummate INTP.Ā 
ENTP has many of these traits, as well. Only major point of contention is not enjoying small-talk, as Trifecta Conway especially is very much all for thatā€¦ at least for the people he deems worthy of it. Barry, he might not be much up for the small-talk as he would Paul or Dawn. I wanted to make sure to at least add one E-type here since I think it should be emphasized that despite his many typical nerd qualities, Conway is very muchĀ extroverted even in canon. Heā€™s one of the most extroverted intellectual characters Iā€™ve ever seen, honestly. Canon andĀ Trifecta Conway love going in-depth with their thought processes, and he is a lover of learning. Loyal and energetic are also listed traits here, which are definitely more prominent Trifecta Conway traits, but notable ones nonetheless.
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Barry - ENFJ (The Giver) or ESFP (The Performer)
While I think we can agree Barry is more of aĀ ā€œlive in the nowā€ type than any other character listed here, contrary to the ENFJ type, the other traits fit Barry like a glove. EspeciallyĀ theĀ ā€œliving in their imagination opposed to the real worldā€ aspect. Holy shit that is very Barry. But he is idealistic, highlyĀ charismatic, outspokenā€¦ and in Trifecta, heā€™s proved to grow like a weed on characters whoā€™d otherwise never associate with him, such as Conway and eventually Paul. Barryā€™s also much more of an optimistic individual compared to his future travel-mates and much less prone to letting bad shit get him down for any length of time.Ā 
ESFP speaks for itself. Barryā€™s the biggest spotlight whore of the Trifecta cast. Fun and livelihood are Barryā€™s core essences, and while heā€™s not the most considerate character to ever be around and thinking is secondary to everything, Barry isnā€™t a complete dick and will feel bad if he realizes heā€™s inadvertently hurt someoneā€™s feelings. It may take him a while to understandĀ that, but once he does, heā€™ll go out of his way to make you feel better. Barry doesnā€™t want to travel around with a couple of sad-sacks, after all. And while Barryā€™s an acquired taste who can and will rub people the wrong wayā€¦ you know, compared to Paul and Conway, heā€™ll come off as the one mostĀ ā€œnormalā€ when it comes to people-persons. Barryā€™s aggressively extroverted, so even if it yields mixed results more often than heā€™d like, Barry will always go out of his way to connect with people.
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Maylene - ISFJ (The Nurturer) or ESTP (The Doer)
Despite being one of the most developed characters among the gym leader category in the Pokemon anime, she is harder to peg down than the others. But IFSJ feels pretty accurate for her. Sensitive to the feelings of others could link to her identity as an aura-userā€¦ plus she was insecure enough to let Paulā€™s worlds wreck her shit. But she is extremely considerate of others, warm and kind-hearted, and bringing out the best in others is what she aims to do as gym leader. Considerate, loyal, unselfish? All fit Maylene perfectly. For a Fighting-type specialist and martial artist, sheā€™s definitely a modest and gentle soul.
ESTPā€¦ I think Trifecta 13 proves how incompatible Maylene is with elaborate planning and handling shitloads of detailed instructions. If left to her own devices, Maylene definitely would have handled the issue in chapter 13 by directly confronting Saturn rather than trying her hardest to feign ignorance of his identity. Sheā€™s not hot-headed, but Maylene does far better winging it than adhering to something set out for her. Maylene does always strive to better herself, so sheā€™s open to trying new things. While a little on the shy side, she enjoys being around people and she IS the head of her own damn dojo, soā€¦ there you go. While itā€™s a stretch to say sheā€™s pragmatic or logical, she definitely comes off that way when you line her up with other characters of her type specialty and line of work. She is level-headed and down-to-earth, at least; Iā€™ll say that much.
When you break it down, there are common carry-over traits between the two for everyone:Ā 
PaulĀ solidly has Introverted, Thinking, and JudgingĀ in his set. Checks out.
Reggie always carries Extroverted, Sensing,Ā and Judging.Ā 
BrandonĀ is a sure bet for ExtrovertedĀ and Intuitive.Ā 
ConwayĀ is a consummate Intuitive, ThinkingĀ and PerceivingĀ man.Ā 
BarryĀ is a lock for ExtrovertedĀ and Feeling. Unsurprising.
MayleneĀ only has SensingĀ as a consistent trait.
Well, that was more fun than I thought. Hope everyone else enjoys that!
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unfetteredeternalnow Ā· 6 years ago
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More revelations from my extremelyĀ preliminary foray into zodiacalĀ releasing. As a reference,Ā I am releasing from my lot of spirit, which for me falls in the same house as my lot of fortune, which means I have to start releasing from the subsequent sign. i.e. since my lot of fortune and spirit fall in Libra, I have to start releasingĀ from Scorpio. This is how 2nd-century astrologer Vettius Valens did it, and so in order to remain true to the technique, this is how I will do it. More importantly, from what I can tell, It works. Anyway, late next fall my 12th house will be activated for the first time in my life on level 2. I am currently in a level 1 peak period which is SaturnĀ ruled. My natal Saturn falls in my 12th house along with my natal Jupiter. The activated houses trine each other. Also, the activated peak period house will be the subject of some pretty heavy transits in 2020. I wonder what that is going to feel like with both of those houses activated. Oh, also, the activated peak periodĀ house will be the annualĀ perfected house as well starting on my upcoming birthday. The level 2 12th house activation will last twenty months. A little under two years. During the period of the dual activation of the level 1 peak period house and the level 2 house, I will experience Jupiter trine Jupiter, SaturnĀ trine Saturn, and PlutoĀ trine Saturn within those activated houses. Though my natal Jupiter is rather maltreated, (opposite its domicile and in the 12th house)Ā  it does make a tightish sextile (within a 4-degree orb) to my natal Moon midheaven conjunction, which means he is not completely useless. That sextile pulls his influenceĀ up to a more prominent position. The same is true for my natal Saturn, which is sextile my natal 10th house Mercury-Sun Cazimi at an even tighter orb. I was born at noon, which means SaturnĀ has a more constructive influenceĀ on me. So, Iā€™m really curious as to how it will all play out. My tenth house stellium opposes my level one peak period house, which means all those planets are also affecting this peak period. Those are the same planets in tight sextile with my 12th house placements. So yeah, really curious about it all. Generally speaking, the 12th house is not cute. Iā€™m hoping those sextiles to the tenth house and those transitingĀ trines from my level 1 peak period house do some nice things for me.Ā 
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lilmajorshawty Ā· 7 years ago
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Astrology and Le Body. šŸ¤œšŸæāœ‹šŸ¾šŸ––šŸ¼āœŠšŸ¼šŸ‘‚šŸ¾šŸ‘£šŸ‘„šŸ‘…
1st house: planets that fall here will often be more of a signifier of your facial features(forehead) and scalp(hair)
2nd house: this will be indicative of your neck/throat and your voice.
3rd house: this will be indicative of your arms and hands!
4th house: this is going to be your chest for men and breast for women and upper stomach area
5th house: this is your back and heart.
6th house: this is your lower stomache just above your waist line.
7th house: this is your booty. Aha and your pelvic region.
8th house: this is your genitalia
9th house: thunder thighs and inner thighs
10th house: knee caps/bone structure.
11th house: ankles
12th house: your feet and this is actually believe it or not also rules your finger tips and toes. Not the actual hands themselves but the fingers
Okeh guise so now weā€™re gonna do le planets.
Sun-makes it radiant! Makes it stand out in a noticeable way. Makes it masculine in nature(not veins or anything like that but gives it a more alpha look)
Moon-makes it look fragile and soft. Plushy sort of and rounds it off. Kind of plushy and baby looking. ā€œEx he has baby handsā€
Mercury-makes it fluctuate! In some cases it makes things longer if itā€™s in an earth house and makes things more petite and compact if itā€™s an water house. More angular and shaped if itā€™s an air house and more subtle if in a fire house.
Venus-makes it look pretty! Makes it soft similarly to the moon but in a beauty guru esq format. Makes it look sensual and sort of dainty.
Mars-Well. It makes it look rough. Angry. Veiny aha Iā€™m partly kidding! But it does make it look a little more rougher around the edges or intense. Kind of in a raw and earthy way! And no not ugly just like ā€œnaturalā€
Jupiter-makes it big and theoretically something that expands.
Saturn-makes it smol. And a little on the boney side! Looks mature.
Neptune-makes it hard to define. Like you may see it one way and then you get another look and it looks different! Usually makes it fragile and a little translucent. In some cases it can make it hidden and ambiguous
Pluto-makes it look intense and sharp, makes it stand out and has a sort of sexy look to it.
Example time. Introducing me!
Sun in the 1st cancer
Moon in the 10th
Mercury in the 2nd
Venus in the 12th
Mars in the 12th
Jupiter in the 10th
Saturn in the 11th
Neptune in the 7th
Pluto in the 5th
Okay so
My hair is usually on the thicker side, and itā€™s very curly. The Sun/Leoā€™s influence adds to that. And my forehead is pretty prominate aha shapes my whole face pretty much. But my suns in cancer so my face is soft and round and I always look like Iā€™m gonna cry šŸ˜­. And my hair also doesnā€™t get as thick as it can and is pale in color. So here moon and sun cancel each other out so I get a mix of both so itā€™s hard to tell the difference.
My voice changes a lot and I often fluctuate with the sound of it fairly often. My neck is long! Itā€™s in Leo so once again I do have a masculine neck and it does stand out aha. But the cups is in Leo and my voice does stand and can be pretty loud. But itā€™s also quiet and you canā€™t here me(sun in cancer)
Nothings in my third house but Leo once again and I do have pretty manly hands bro. šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ same for my arms but once again since itā€™s cancers influence with it being my suns ruler itā€™s manly but also soft looking
My 4th house is empty for the most part but has Juno and Lilith there. So like once again where canceling out. Itā€™s Lilith in libra and Juno in libra. So my chest is pretty nice looking but itā€™s very boney because Iā€™m so skinny and it can look very intense at times.(yes I eat guys I eat a lot but yeah aha)
My Pluto in my libra 5th house.
My back does look intense and itā€™s pretty sharp cause the bones lmao. But itā€™s also pretty soft and what not.
My 6th house is empty but I have sag here and my stomache can get sooooo like I could eat a house. Itā€™s like the only part of me that gets big high key.
My 7th house has Neptune and my bum does look smol but like I wear baggy clothes a lot and even if Iā€™m wearing tight stuff it looks smol aha but like itā€™s a nice size to me but clothes kinda make it look non exsistant šŸ™ƒ and itā€™s also in Capricorn 7th house cups so like yeah mini booty team
My eighth house is aqua and urnaus is also there and yeah my groin has seen some shit. šŸ™ƒ so as far as looking unique I would def say yes. But I donā€™t see Saturn here! Nothings smol! Looking different yeah but everythingā€™s about normal size.
My 9th house is empty as well but also in aqua and yes I have weird thighs like sometimes there present and other times lol? Plus co ruled by Saturn so there like smol.
My 10th house has moon and Jupiter Aries/Pisces and the 10th house cusp is Pisces/Scorpio decan and my knees are pretty smol like theyā€™re a little dainty and what not. They donā€™t really ā€œexpandā€ but they can get inflamed pretty easy and get larger. There very sharp looking and intense. People always see what they want to see in my bone structure and Iā€™m the only one in the family with no high cheek bones! My face is just round af. And my bones are super plushy and sensitive.
My 11th house is in Aries and i have Saturn In Taurus there. And yes my ankles be looking rough sis. But they still look decent with Taurus there and theyā€™re very smol as well.
ā—¼ļøside note: LOOL I didnā€™t know Saturn is everywhere in my damn chart!? Like wow sis let me grow.
My 12th house is another cancel because mars and Venus fall there and like my feet and fingers are like cute to me but theyā€™re also kinda intense looking and like veiny :/ and my mars is in cancer and my Gemini Venus in the aqua decan so my fingers look a little unique and they change shape soooooo often sometimes there bricks other time they look like model hands :/ my feet are like getting flat now so idk but I actually like them!
Aha this isnā€™t meant to be taken to seriously and feel free to comment whatever you like I was just trying to see if any of this rang true or not as I did see it somewhere that this could be applied this way. I personally donā€™t think astrology alone can depict genetics which would more so be the ic if anything but just thought this was interesting. Ello!
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eyecicles Ā· 7 years ago
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Hi, you say that L is a Scorpio Sun, Pisces Moon and Aquarius Rising, have you thought of all of his placements and the astrology placements of the other death note characters? (I'm very interested in astrology and death note and your opinion on this)
Oh god, I could probably write you a book about this, haha. Thatā€™s three (DN, L, astrology) special interests at once! So thanks for the question.
(Again: itā€™s not meant to be taken 100% seriously and just something I do because my brain loves to obsess over certain topics, so please, anyone who reads this, donā€™t come to me with the ā€œValidity of Astrology Discourseā€)
We neither know the exact time of Lā€™s birth, nor where he was born (and thatā€™s true for every DN character, itā€™s just especially complicated with him because of his ethically mixed background). Which means that we will probably never know the placements of his Houses, but the rest of his radix is fortunately pretty much set. I looked it up for various potential birthplaces (relevant are: England (Europe is tiny, so it would only make a minimal difference if he was born in Italy or France), Russia (I tried a few places for Russia, for obvious reasons) and Japan) and at least none of his luminaries change signs, depending on where he was born, so thatā€™s great.
I also tried many different times for the time of his birth and this is the one I probably like the best:
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As I said, I headcanon his AC to be in Aquarius, but thatā€™s not the only thing I like about this: it would put his Scorpio sun almost at the zenith and in the 8th house too. Heā€™s quite the extreme Scorpio, in my opinion, it wouldnā€™t surprise me at all if his sun were in the ā€œScorpio Houseā€ on top of it. (I could also talk about his MC and IC in Sagittarius and Gemini, but then I would never stop talking, so Iā€™ll shut up for now) (Or his Leo DC *cough*) (Or that Pisces - where also his moon is - is caged in this one)
I also consider this:
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Itā€™s pretty different, as you can see, and I think Virgo Rising is less likely than Aquarius rising, but what I like about this, is that most of the luminaries are under the horizon (which would fit his introverted and secretive nature) and also left (which would fit his self-centered nature). (And his DC in Pisces would be interesting too, considering his weird, complicated relationship with Light, whoā€™s Pisces)
I looked at his horoscope with various other House placements too, but whatever.
So, anyway, funnily enough, all of this:
Scorpio Sun
Pisces Moon
Sagittarius Mercury (barely, though, his Mercury is still heavily influenced by Scorpio)
Scorpio Venus
Leo Mars
Virgo Jupiter
Virgo Saturn
Scorpio Uranus
Sagittarius Neptune
Libra Pluto
Virgo Lunar Node
Libra Lilith
Taurus Chiron
Pisces Pholus
is canon. Of course, Ohba doesnā€™t give fuck about any of this, except his Sun (I think), but Iā€™m still very satisfied with practically all of this and canā€™t help but analyse it in my spare time.
And I think this:
Scorpio Sun, House 8
Pisces Moon, House 1/Rising
Sagittarius Mercury, House 9
Scorpio Venus, House 9
Leo Mars, House7
Virgo Jupiter, House7
Virgo Saturn, House7
Scorpio Uranus, House9
Sagittarius Neptune, House10/MC
Libra Pluto, House8
Virgo Lunar Node, House7
Libra Lilith, House7/8 (8, imo)
Taurus Chiron, House 2/3
Pisces Pholus, House1/Rising
looks very, very good. Pisces Moon in AC would probably surprise a few people, but think about his pale skin, round, bulging eyes and his wacky (ā€loonyā€) hair. Seriously, heā€™s quite the classic water type. It would also explain why he does everything he needs to do to feel comfortable (eating sweets, walking barefoot, limp posture, wearing only certain, comfortable clothes = classic Pisces stuff) in front of everyone (which is part of what the AC stands for), without caring about what people might think (= Aquarius Rising).
And where does his incredible stubbornness come from? Mainly from basically everything about his Sun, Leo Mars and Sagittarius MC. Honestly, the motto of a Leo Mars in DC could very well be: ā€œ
He who moves first always wins.
ā€
The only thing I donā€™t like about this, is that it would make the 7th House his most prominent Houseā€¦ā€¦. I have no idea what to make of that.
As for other DN characters: yes, Iā€™ve thought about most of the main characterā€™s placements too. And itā€™s really nice that we know all of their birthdays & the years there were born in and can also guess at least the country they were born in.
So, in my opinion,
Light
is either Capricorn Rising or Virgo Rising:
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(This ā€œlooksā€ more like him, but I like some other parts of the second one better) (Libra Moon at the centre is justā€¦. very Light-ish)
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(especially that his Moon would already have some Scorpio influence in this one) (But Gemini MC soundsā€¦ unlikely)
So I think his radix would either look like this:Ā 
Pisces Sun, House 2Libra Moon, House 9Pisces with Aries Mercury, House 2Pisces Venus, House 2Sagittarius Mars, House 11Pisceswith Aquarius Jupiter, House 2Sagittarius Saturn, House 11Sagittarius Uranus, House 11/12 (Iā€™m sure itā€™s 12)Capricorn Neptune, House 12Scorpio Pluto, House 10/MCTaurus with AriesLunar Node, House 3Taurus Lilith, House 4/ICGemini Chiron, House 5Taurus with AriesPholus, HouseĀ¾ (maybe IC)
or this:
Pisces Sun, House 6/7 Libra with Scorpio Moon, House 2Pisces with Aries Mercury, House 7Pisces Venus, House 7Sagittarius Mars, House 4/ICPisces with Aquarius Jupiter, House 6Sagittarius Saturn, House 4/ICSagittarius Uranus, House 4/ICCapricorn Neptune, House 4/ICScorpio Pluto, House 3Taurus with Aries Lunar Node, House 8Taurus Lilith, House 9Gemini Chiron, House 10/MCTaurus with Aries Pholus, House8/9
All this stuff in IC would explain a lot and I like that this puts his sun in the 6th House.
As for Misa:
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(Iā€™m pretty sure thatā€™s what her radix would look like) (& Iā€™m at least 90% certain that her AC would be Gemini)
Capricorn (with Sagittarius, btw, which is pretty important - she doesnā€™t have much of a Capricorn) Sun, House 7Aquarius Moon, House 9Sagittarius Mercury, House 6/7Aquarius Venus, House 9Aquarius/Pisces (itā€™s at 0Ā°00in Pisces with the time of birth I chose, haha) Mars, House 10/MCCapricorn with Aquarius Jupiter, House 8Scorpio Saturn, House 6Sagittarius Uranus, House 6/7Capricorn Neptune, House 7Scorpio Pluto, House 5/6Taurus Lunar Node, House 12Aries Lilith, House 11
Gemini Chiron, House 12Aries Pholus, House11
So, deciding on Nearā€™s Rising sign was probably the most difficult one for me. But I think itā€™s, probably, an Earth sign - like his Sun. I considered Aquarius, for example, too, but heā€™s already an Aquarius Moon and I think most of what I see in him of this sign is pretty much covered by this. And he also has a strong Leo influence either wayā€¦ (I think he was born late into the day - after 6 pm - for various reasons, so Iā€™d put his AC anywhere form Capricorn to Taurus) (Oh, and I think he was born somewhere in Great Britain, but I could be wrong) This is with Taurus:
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(As you can see, he has lots of Capricorn influence regardless)
Virgo Sun, House 5Aquarius with Scorpio Moon, House 11Leo with Aries Mercury, House 5Leo Venus, House 5Virgo Mars, House 6Leo Jupiter, House 5Aquarius Saturn, House 10/MCCapricorn Uranus, House 9Capricorn Neptune, House 9Scorpio Pluto, House 6/7Capricorn Lunar Node, House 9/10 (maybe MC)Capricorn Lilith, House 9Leo Chiron, House 4Cancer Pholus, House4
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(Yeahā€¦.. looks a bit extreme, but I like how his AC looks here, especially because of the Aquarius, Pisces and Moon influences)
Virgo Sun, House 7Aquarius with Scorpio Moon, House 1/RisingLeo Mercury, House 7Leo Venus, House 7Virgo Mars, House 8Leo Jupiter, House 7Aquarius Saturn, House 1/RisingCapricorn Uranus, House 12Capricorn Neptune, House 12/1 (maybe Rising)Scorpio Pluto, House 9/10 (maybe MC)Capricorn Lunar Node, House 1/RisingCapricorn Lilith, House 12Leo Chiron, House 7Cancer Pholus, House 7
On to Mello:
We donā€™t know where he was born, but I chose Slovenia for his birth place:
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(And I think this fits him pretty well! Especially Sun in House 9 and all those luminaries in House 10 opposing his Moon - and Jupiter - in House 4, lol)
Sagittarius Sun, House 9Cancer Moon, House 4Capricorn Mercury, House 10/MCAquarius Venus, House 11Scorpio Mars, House 8Cancer Jupiter, House 4/ICCapricorn Saturn, House 10/MCCapricon Uranus, House 10/MCCapricorn Neptune, House 10/MCScorpio Pluto, House 8AquariusLunar Node, House 11/12Scorpio Lilith, House 8Cancer Chiron, House 4/ICGeminiPholus, House 3/4 (maybe IC)
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(But, imo, Leo Rising is just as likely, my Sun is in the 5th House too and I can see some of what this means in him) (Also, Aquarius DC sounds like him too)
Sagittarius Sun, House 5Cancer Moon, House 12CapricornĀ  Mercury, House 6Aquarius Venus, House 6/7Scorpio Mars, House 5Cancer Jupiter, House 12Capricorn Saturn, House 6Capricon Uranus, House 6Capricorn Neptune, House 6Scorpio Pluto, House 4/IC (this would explain a lot)AquariusLunar Node, House 7Scorpio Lilith, House 4/IC (this too)Cancer Chiron, House 12GeminiPholus, House11
Andā€¦.. Iā€™ll stop here, but you can always ask me about other characters too (or to go more in-depth), if you want to! I wonā€™t get tired talking about this, no matter how pointless it might be, haha.
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